From Eurogamer, a bit on how the career works.

"Although the main career will still present an overview of 200 events, season mode boils these down to three at any moment, populating your calendar with events based on your preferences, performance, what you've raced in the past and which cars you buy, and then feeding these through to you as necessary. As for variety, we're told to expect oval racing for the first time, as well as drifting and drag racing."

This is a god-sent. So pretty much we get to pick from three events that will be given to us depending on previous choices and cars we buy. Much needed thing to be honest. This, combined with the rewind feature is going to bring so much life back to this game it's not even funny. There was nothing more frustrating in Forza 2 race, 8 laps, I dominate the race, but end up crashing BADLY in the last lap--with simulation damage, and I have to start over.

I just couldn't stand that. Massive frustration, and I don't have the time to replay another 20 minutes of the same knowing it can happen again (and it did at times). Funny thing though, the career setup is pretty much what PGR4 did, and the rewind came from GRID. So they are taking what they like from other games, which is the right thing to do IMO as it improves this game.

As for drifting, I'm just hoping the physics aren't dumbed down like GT is doing. Forza has all the necessary physics for a drift mode, all they need to add is some sort of scoring system, and leave the physics alone!

By the way, I just noticed they have a really expensive collectors edition going for $80. I wouldn't like seeing "exclusive" tracks for the collectors edition. Cars are fine, but tracks are elementary to the game, so they better not rip us off like that.

Milhouse? Ok, we'll leave it at that....You are right.

Is 115 tracks not enough?

This thread is starting to remind a lot of the old forza 2 thread.

Lol, its got a long way to go, that must have been the biggest thread ever on gamersyde

This thread will never become nearly as pitiful as the Forza 2 thread was.

Dude, you can't fall for that bloated number.

BTW, I looked for info on the limited edition and it seems like no rip-offs will be included in the package. So you'll get some cars, a keychain, exclusive access to whatever....but nothing important. No tracks.True, it's simply impossible because at least now we all agree that this game looks awesome.

I know what HDR is. HDR itself isn't real, it's just a technique to create a wider range of intensity levels for use in photos or computer graphics and it doesn't accurately represent how our eyes adjust to light.And all I said was that the reflection mapping in Forza 2 was still unrealistic.The material used for cars isn't going to act like a mirror that reflects everything regardless of distance.

http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/attachments/f3/685...

Notice the intense reflections to the side of the car but the front bumper is pretty much just the color.Yeah, some of the latest vids are starting to show more damage effects. Looks like it takes a lot more to lose bumpers, good thing too because the bumpers came off way to easily in Forza 2.

BTW, the new e92 pics looks awesome.

Yeah but think about it, even with 3 variations of every location (which i seriously doubt), there are still almost 40 which is alot more than the original 12.

Check out this set up!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQV3CE6brFA

Wonder how much that costs :)

ahh, the good old days

No. The marketing number for FM2 was "more than 60" tracks. So let's keep it at 60.

60/12 = 5. So on average....somehow....these guys came out with 5 tracks out of 1 actual.

So now that the marketing number is 100+ tracks, divide by 5 we get 20 actual. A decent number if true. An 8 track increase.

I'm glad they are going for two disks, I just want to know how much space is used on the second disk.(ugh, why do I keep spelling disk wrong)

Probably thinking of another word really close to that one.

Also some people on gaf have said that not every track runs at a solid 60fps yet so I guess that means they obviously have more optimizing to do. Supposedly demo at E3 is one month old code as well.

Ok, let's make it more indepth. :)

Basically a metallic paint has two layers relevant for the reflections. The one underneath with the actual colour and another on top of it, the clear lacquer. The only layer doing the reflections is the one on top (it's behaving like glass, the one underneath just diffuses the light). The reflections are always there, the only limitation to that is the human eye/camera.

I'm trying to do an analogy: When you're sitting in a train at daytime the sun shining brightly you'll see hardly any reflections in the windows, at night you do. The reflections were always there they don't just disappear at day time. What happened is that your eye adjusted to the brightness of the sun light and the reflections were just too dark to notice.

So what does it mean for a racing game? Well, the illuminance of the paint underneath plays a big role in whenever you'll see the reflection or not. Not only that but the illuminance of the entire image/frame determines whenever you'll see it. When you take off some of the limitations you end up having something like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/manurs/3510232429/


Now onto Forza 3. A lot of people may have not noticed that they've improved on the reflections department a lot and the results are quite good I might add.

http://images.gamersyde.com/gallery/public/10651/1...

There are many pics that show the improvements but I've chosen this one since it demonstrates how the brightness of the paint changes the reflection details (since we have the same lighting for both cars). GT5 seems to be very similar in that department, but with a much steeper decline of detail (at least on the bright cars it seems).

Microsoft will definitely have to save gamers the trouble for their next gen console. Just toss a 160GB SATA 3.0GB/s drive in there or something :D

Or maybe 2 drives at once in a Raid 0 configuration. Pipe dream I know :(

The price on those went down quite a bit, still a little expensive. Was planning on getting one but then I decided to get more ram instead.

Imagine an SSD and taking into consideration that the next console GPUs are almost guaranteed to be DX11 capable. I just go nuts thinking of what developers would achieve. Total gaming heaven.

Next Gen racers will be downright legendary.

HDR is just a technique that is capable to store the full range of intensitiy that you can see in nature, but many output devices aren't capable to show HDR. HDR has nothing to do with how your eyes adjust to light.