TheBeagle
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Since 6619 Days
3 weeks tomorrow ! Not long at all. I cant wait until I can stop playing GOW's shitty MP.
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deftangel
Since 6882 Days
Trip to Madame Tussauds confirmed! Looks pretty cool actually :)
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
Posted by deftangel
Trip to Madame Tussauds confirmed! Looks pretty cool actually :)
It dose in-deed :)
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
Halo 3 Epsilon 'SnprSlick' video:

Shows armor customization, coop gameplay(saved film), if you can put up with the music, it gets interesting at around 4mins in.

Video:

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/14446
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FireWire - IEEE 1394
FireWire
Since 7014 Days
Posted by dcdelgado
Halo 3 Epsilon 'SnprSlick' video:

Shows armor customization, coop gameplay(saved film), if you can put up with the music, it gets interesting at around 4mins in.

Video:
http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/14446
Would those customizations be locked because it's an old build or because u have to unlock em by playing online and ranking up!
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
Posted by FireWire
Would those customizations be locked because it's an old build or because u have to unlock em by playing online and ranking up!
No idea??
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dcdelgado
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Since 6874 Days
How to destroy a Dropship in Halo3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNbLQa5P9s
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deftangel
Since 6882 Days
Posted by FireWire
Would those customizations be locked because it's an old build or because u have to unlock em by playing online and ranking up!
You unlock them by completing campaign missions but as this is Epsilon and has only one campaign mission, I imagine most of them aren't available anyway.
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XAL
XAL
Since 7007 Days


Some little blurb from EGM about what they've seen in games so far.

Not to troll or anything, but what they're saying is really valid. A lot of talk from magazines and impressions from demos is how smart (and sometimes just pure evil) the AI is. The Killzone 2 AI in the demos I've seen don't really do a whole lot - nothing that stands out anyways. Maybe as time goes on they'll show off the AI and not the "pretty pretty gritty graphics" with motion blur and filters...

Is the MC the first videogame character to get waxed at MT's?
Maybe we'll see Solid Snake there in time. hehe
Posted by dcdelgado
How to destroy a Dropship in Halo3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNbLQa5P9s
Holy crap. What did they do? Shoot an assload of fuel rods at it?
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
Sath
Since 6880 Days
Posted by XAL
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2972/proofre3.jpg

Some little blurb from EGM about what they've seen in games so far.

Not to troll or anything, but what they're saying is really valid. A lot of talk from magazines and impressions from demos is how smart (and sometimes just pure evil) the AI is. The Killzone 2 AI in the demos I've seen don't really do a whole lot - nothing that stands out anyways. Maybe as time goes on they'll show off the AI and not the "pretty pretty gritty graphics" with motion blur and filters...
Halo 3 - Coming in 3 weeks!
Killzone 2 - Coming sometime in 2008!

I hope EGM was joking because that isn't valid at all.
No game can get that kick ass AI in pre-alpha, and then compare THAT AI to the one that is coming like 3 weeks from now.

But I know Game Informer was praising the AI and said its very good.
I rather go with G.I than EGM.
Never liked EGM to be honest :S.
The only reason I posted this is because I saw that in another forum, so I didn't want to make a new thread so I posted it here.

Ah well...
Back to Halo 3, sorry for going off topic there a bit.
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dcdelgado
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Since 6874 Days
Yes you are going off topic, Sath, stop or i will be forced to thrash you.
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Acert93 - Mr. Bad Cop
Acert93
Since 6985 Days
Posted by dcdelgado
Yep you fuc@ed up with the lighting comment!
No, his specific comments were very accurate.
go watch the gamersyde videos then come back and tell me what you think about the lighting in Halo3?
He obviously did watch the videos DC, so chill.
Posted by szaromir
I meant shadowing to be exact, environmental shadows are prebaked, things (dynamic objects) often do not cast shadows in sunlight or light from flashlight, or cast them even though they are already in these brebaked shadows. That's some last-gen stuff, even some last-gen games had these things done much better (think about Splinter Cell series). Bungie artists make up for it as much as they can, but it's still a downside for me.
Yeah, most of the static geometry seems to have prebaked shadows. They are cheap and really HQ. Unless your world lighting conditions change position then there are good arguements to use them, especially if you have a large world. Of course you then have to balance in dynamic objects to work right (and avoid issues like dynamic object shadows passing through and contrasting in intensity).

Ditto on the spot lights. I noticed this and commented on it about the Warthog headlights. I was pretty shocked to not see shadows cast in the bunker. The self shadows also have some issues with contrast with the cast shadow (different techniques is my guess) and dark/light side contrast and shadows. I am sure part of this all goes back to the HDR model and trying to emphasize it without overblooming everything.

Part of the reason devs avoid using certain techniques is because they are new and a lot of people are unfamiliar with them (they say you are nitpicky when a trained eye doesn't see them; then when become standard everyone expects them). A classic exaple is 3 years ago Carmack argued that most people wouldn't notice self shadows, hence it wasn't worth the cost. Which is the second point. Quality shadows and point lights are expensive. The more objects you have and higher poly count and these can break your game. This is one reason CoD4 uses a lot of normals and low poly models--it allowed them to invest more in lighting/shadows and particles while keeping a high framerate. Ever game makes compromises.

As for the questions about PS3 games... I do talk about them. But we have enough people bashing Sony and our newfound PS3 friends that we don't need me chimming in. And Sony just doesn't have the games I am interested in--and fewer games in general--and most of my indy friends are on the MS side of the court.

But I do say stuff, people just miss it. I didn't have so flattering things to say about KZ2 when the USAToday shot surfaced.
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There needs to be a game that uses HDR, dynamic shadowing, soft shadowing, self shadowing, and bloom. Now that sir would be one crazy game.
A number of new games do those. Bloom can be independant but is pretty much necessary for HDR. Most new games use an HDR technique of some sort. Dynamic shadows are pretty common, too. Now some games cheat--they will have 3 or 4 shadow techniques doing different things. So sometimes they are lower quality (like muzzle flashes in KZ2 cast nasty low quality shadows). A game like Crysis uses a lot of different shadowing techniques, including VSM which was also featured in FM2 and will be used in Little Big Planet. VSM are a good way to get nice, soft edges with shadow maps at a reasonable cost.

Anyhow, Heavenly Sword has HDR, and dynamic objects both cast and receive dynamic shadows. The only glaring issue I have seen is that in large open areas the shadowmaps aren't quite big enough for the expansive screen space so in these open areas the aliasing (shadow crawl) is pretty bad. Not quite as bad as seen in the older Mass Effect stuff (my eyes, my eyes! they bleeeeed) but still distracting.

Personally, once we get quality lighting and shadowing techniques and start getting dynamic indirect lighting models, and hardware fast enough to do these techniques in good quality on large scale games, I won't be quite as interested in technology because the focus will be squarely on art.

Right now, 75% of what makes a game look good is art (direction/design coherance, quality, variety) and the last 25% is hardware and appropriately using the hardware. Some really technically excellent games look *horrible* and some of people's favorite games use many older techniques (not a bad thing as you can get good IQ levels... see GeOW).
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
For me Halo 3 visuals are a mixed bag so far. There are many good things about them, but lighting is so completely last gen... That's why I think some screens are flat
I'm always chilled and my comment stands, you CANT tell me after watching the videos that the lighting in Halo3 is LAST-GEN! no way in hell!!

(Goes back to sipping my tea and stroking the Kitty)
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Since 6985 Days
But lighting is a mixed bag and does have a lot of "last gen" technical implimentations. Sure, they have HDR. But does that automatically mean it isn't a mixed bag when you don't cast any shadows from any point lights?
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The fans have spoken. Concerning the graphics of the Halo 3 Beta: "There's so many little effects and things going on that make this game pretty much 2nd only to Gears at the moment."

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6874 Days
Posted by Acert93
But lighting is a mixed bag and does have a lot of "last gen" technical implimentations. Sure, they have HDR. But does that automatically mean it isn't a mixed bag when you don't cast any shadows from any point lights?
I agree, but when you say "but lighting is so completely last gen..." i dont agree!
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szaromir
szaromir
Since 6771 Days
Posted by dcdelgado
I agree, but when you say "but lighting is so completely last gen..." i dont agree!
I'm sitting too much on GAF I think and sometimes even I slip a hyperbole here and there. Environmental influence. ;)
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
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Posted by szaromir
I'm sitting too much on GAF I think and sometimes even I slip a hyperbole here and there. Environmental influence. ;)
LOL! ahhh now i see the neogaf influence :p
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My mind! My mind is blown!
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Sath - Missed the<br>hay
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Posted by dcdelgado
Yes you are going off topic, Sath, stop or i will be forced to thrash you.
XAL started it, and I continued and ended it.

Back to topic now :P
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dcdelgado
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My mind! My mind is blown!
Sweet mama!
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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
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Posted by Sath
XAL started it, and I continued and ended it.

Back to topic now :P
And I think it was a pretty fair response. Halo 3 is finished so I would hope that the AI is as well.
Posted by Acert93
But lighting is a mixed bag and does have a lot of "last gen" technical implimentations. Sure, they have HDR. But does that automatically mean it isn't a mixed bag when you don't cast any shadows from any point lights?
But the lighting is the best looking part of the game--so calling it "last gen" sounds like we're assuming the rest of the game looks "last gen" as well.. which it obviously doesn't, in many ways.
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dcdelgado
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Dan Hsu defends his comments:

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=8366927&public...

Quote:

A Microsoft game vs. a Sony game. How convenient.
OK, that wasn't really a question, but it's a legit comment. We didn't pick Halo 3 and Killzone 2 specifically to go against each other or to cause extra controversy. We voted as a staff (including the entire 1UP Network, which includes 1UP.com and GameVideos.com), and we honestly and independently came up with Halo 3 at the top of the list for best A.I. and Killzone 2 at the "top" for worst. We didn't even think of it as Microsoft vs. Sony thing until we realized that both games won their respective categories.
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New vids if anyones interested: http://gameinvasion.comcast.net/gameinvasion/show/#1266429_ha%20lo_3/2240982_halo_3_exclusive_bungie_b

Some of Multiplayer maps and interviews with Bungie's finest (and Frankie)
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