your not showing your opinion, i could easily link someone elses opinion for everything on the net, hell i could link some one saying your a twat, and not just based on what you put in here, from what you put in all topics on this site.

But the fact is it is a great story IMO and to be honest in a selfish way i dont care what others think i enyjoyed it and thats all that matters

plus only about 12% of this thread has been about reviews, rest is just us lot bitching.

talk about emotional attachment ...

but hei dude, listen i stated this before, i more than respect that you enjoyed it, that's the all point isn't?
but can you see the difference between saying "i enjoyed it alot" and "its the best story ever written!"?

He didn't say anything like that. You'd better stop using hyperboles and carefully selected quotes to prove your "facts".

As for now I don't agree or disagree with anyone, I'll play the game tomorrow. Though I have to say opening cutscene is not overwhelming.

jesus christ, hard to maintain a discussion over here, uh? Why should i better stop using hyperboles, is it not a rethoric tool as any other?

And also, i'm not proving any facts, just stating my opinion which is a lot of people cannot emotionaly detach and cannot see the difference between their own opinion and the reality.
It's human nature. People have hard time seeing negative points about their family, their football club, their political party, their country etc etc etc.

I am only looking at this mass hysteria phenomenon from a cynical point of view. i'm going to play the game and i am going to have loads of fun, i'm sure of that. but (from what i've seen so far) i doubt i'll be saying its the best thing ever.

"Best thing ever"

For you no, for me no, but for millions of other gamers YES!!!, and therein lies the problem, just because someone says this is the best game ever for them dose not mean it has to be the best game ever for you, and going off and finding all the negative comments you can from reviews is not helping your case at all, because for every negative comment you find there 20 positives comments from reputable gaming sites, that would shoot it down. So instead of trying to deflate ManThatYouFear excitement for the game, by picking at his comments, why not WAIT till you actually play the game, then you can tell us what you liked and disliked.

yeah you are definitely right, i'm just trying dissect this question too much. its just that i find it a interesting phenomenon. anyways...

Halo 4 ?

"The game isn't perfect"

Show me on single game that is? There isn't one.

"jesus christ, hard to maintain a discussion over here, uh? Why should i better stop using hyperboles, is it not a rethoric tool as any other?"

Because he doesn't want to be challenged. He wants his rantings to be taken as fact. He wants to piss and moan(which is about all he does) about a game he hasn't even played. Of course, him playing the game won't matter, because he'd never admit he was wrong anyway.

lol @ Edge giving the game a 10......I thought they were harsh?

With those graphics alone, I wouldn't give it a 10. So I'm not going to talk about the usual stuff we discussed during development, there are other things that make me go "WTF?"

Facial animations are downright AWFUL, a disgrace, a MESS. A couple of days ago I brought up Half Life 2 to contrast, but man, no need for that, that's just overkill. The animation used here looks ancient.......

.......wait a minute, did anyone else besides me see the freaking marines? Especially their heads? WTF is that? At times it looks like they are infected by the flood. They really don't stick out that much from all the aliens. They are the most horrible things I have seen in quite a while. It's like the artists totally failed here. Their eyes look especially offending, makes you wonder if you are playing a low budget game.

And I still haven't finished the game, but these immense draw distance they talked about really isn't. Not only is it not that big, it really isn't there! They might as well have used a picture considering we can walk a few meters until we get blocked by an invisible wall, we fall to our death down below, or we find this huge rock blocking our way. And what about the pop in? In the ~2 or so level, the first time you get to use vehicles, did anyone else not notice the horrible pop in of the patches of grass? Was I the only one who saw lasers being shot in the distance by NO ONE? And I'm not talking about the ships "miles" away, I'm talking about a few meters ahead (let's say 40) where a brute is supposed to be using the plasma cannon but I'm not close enough for him to be drawn. Considering I have been shooting enemies from a mile away since Far Cry came out, this stuff is highly disappointing.

Pelican animations in somewhat "tight" spaces is bad too, looks like they are lagging but no, I'm not playing online. I wonder how challenging can it be do get that right if it's just a damn scripted event! Shadowing during gameplay is just basic, and let's not forget about the lack of AA.

So I'll just sum up by saying that first trailer we saw was way off from being achieved. The only thing that came close to it is the lighting. And well, the lighting is pretty damn awesome throughout the game, especially dark areas......see, I can't deny it when things are done right.

As for everything else? I still think it's a great game, but no way a perfect ten, and no way in hell more than a 9 in graphics. Like Grift says, it's still linear, story telling is "OK" thus far (can't say much, not done yet), sound is really great ignoring the little hitches here and there, battles are always great, AI is really fun, physics are more exaggerated than in Halo 2, in return we get more grunts flying huge distances like in Halo 1, and aside from the great lighting, plasma guns's effects look really great too :D

Men, I was all over the place with that post, but whatever. That's my opinion so far.

Well like i said back at TGS05 if you thought they would live up to that trailer then you were fooling yourself.

People should have learnt by now that if it looks too good to be true, there is a reason for that.

I actually quite like Halo 3 all in all, graphically its nothing special, but it does the job, and to be honest it's time people stopped rating games by their graphics, gameplay is where its at.

define revolutionary gameplay?

(we can go on and on forever with the discussion here...)

Well I disagree, but if thats how you see it, thats good :)Well as much as I prefer the Art style to Halo, I still think Gears puts it to shame, graphically, Halo is a better game though IMO, much more fun anyway.

Let me refresh your memory. In July, you were saying:Care to elaborate on what you found so revolutionary in these two days of play you had with the game?

Just Finished the EPIC fight on Legendary Co-op, it took 12hrs 42mins of glorious entertainment. It has eaten up all the hype and exceeded it, its beyond my expectations. Never in my life have I enjoyed a game this much, the level design, art, archictecture, structure and scale of the worlds puts every other game to shame.

The visuals really are incredible, the best i've seen on console games being realeased this year(You realise just how fantastic this game looks when you enter the film mode and zoom into to soo much intricate detail...just wow), oh and the music... oh the music... wow!

Halo 3 reminded me of the reason I love computer games, it oozes so much greatness, from start to finish. For me, this is not only the best in the trilogy, Its the greatest game ever made.

i'm sorry but Acert93, you're definitely the master of rhetoric manipulation and you find yourself above the rest of the people here at this forum.
As far as i remember this is the halo thread,
and thenand you, replying to lebato's reviewSo i would only guess that you are referring to HALO 3. You are very eloquent, and most of the times i truly appreciate your posts but quit being so full of yourself and at least try to be coherent, and justify this huge change of position regarding HALO.

Hmn, it really isn't a review, but oh well.

And Acert is going to say he didn't reply to me, and well, he didn't.........

*this is going to get good!*

:D nothing beats a good healthy argument!

Perhaps Bungie felt they didn't need to alter the core gameplay, I think most people were happy with Halo and Halo 2 (would account for the sales figures :P) so providing a new story, better graphics and more online options just makes the game better all round.

I'm not a fan of revolutionising games anyway, especially when you find something that works so well.Good thing its got Halo on the package then :P