Halo Reach

Since 6897 Days

If that cutscene is at all a good indication of actual gameplay visuals, animations, then wow.

But alas, even though they say it's straight up in-game engine and is what the game is going to look like, I still remember being heavily burned from the E3 06 reveal trailer.

Would be cool if they could actually release to us some screenshots, but I doubt we'll get anything like that anytime soon.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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Acert93

Since 6976 Days

Can anyone identify all the people in the video?

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Optimusv2

Since 6897 Days

I see kelly!!! I think!

The female with the helmet off is her I think.

The big guy messing with knife is probably the dude who went fist to fist with 2 covenant hunters in the ghosts of onyx book near the end :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjtMaUNRCK4

Best quality youtube vid of Reach cinematic by far. It shows just how good this damn thing really looks. I just hope they aren't pulling our legs. We've seen cinematics from halo games before that have been downgraded. Going to keep my expectations in check big time until I actually start seeing some gameplay.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

GrimThorne

Since 6878 Days

IT'S NOT GAMEPLAY!!! It's just an in-game cinematic.

Bungie had an opportunity to show us actual gameplay and they instead selected a cut-scene. TYPICAL. I'm sorry Bungie but we've been down this road with you and you've played bait and switch with the graphics before. Until we see the game engine at work, running actual playable game footage we're just not going to trust this thing that you've show us.

Seriously Bungie, you're not going to hype me this time.

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Ronsauce

Since 6990 Days

Posted by GrimThorne

IT'S NOT GAMEPLAY!!! It's just an in-game cinematic.

LOL. Thanks Captain Obvious.

I'm sorry Bungie but we've been down this road with you and you've played bait and switch with the graphics before.

When? They've shown cutscenes that have looked better than gameplay before, but they never claimed it was gameplay. It's your own damn fault for ever thinking it was.

I thought it looked good, but I have two little gripes. First, I wish they opted for a softer, more real-looking skin ala KZ2 or MW2 instead of the shine. That said, the models looked TONS better than Halo 3's. Second, I didn't think the animation looked good. They need to hop on the mo-cap bandwagon and get some Uncharted or even CoD4-level animation during the cutscenes. There was just an awkward, unnatural pace and weightlessness to the movements. In all honesty though, if the animation during gameplay is improved upon, I don't really care if the cut-scene animation seems a bit off.

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[quote=GrimThorne][b]IT'S NOT GAMEPLAY!!![/b]    It's just an in-game cinematic.[/quote]
LOL. Thanks Captain Obvious.

[quote]I'm sorry Bungie but we've been down this road with you and you've played bait and switch with the graphics before. [/quote]
When? They've shown cutscenes that have looked better than gameplay before, but they never claimed it was gameplay. It's your own damn fault for ever thinking it was.

I thought it looked good, but I have two little gripes. First, I wish they opted for a softer, more real-looking skin ala KZ2 or MW2 instead of the shine. That said, the models looked TONS better than Halo 3's. Second, I didn't think the animation looked good. They need to hop on the mo-cap bandwagon and get some Uncharted or even CoD4-level animation during the cutscenes. There was just an awkward, unnatural pace and weightlessness to the movements. In all honesty though, if the animation during gameplay is improved upon, I don't really care if the cut-scene animation seems a bit off.

Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

Ronsauce

Since 6990 Days

Upon rewatching the trailer, albeit in horribly tiny quality, the animation only bothers me when the one spartan walks through the door and is stopped by the chick. This particular gripe has been downgraded from "little" to "virtually non-existant pending more footage."

I pray...PRAY...that Reach has a LOT more in the way of atmospheric effects than Halo 3. I want fog and smoke and steam and snow and ash...with beams of light shining through them all the while.

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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

Optimusv2

Since 6897 Days

Ron have you seen it full HD as in on your HDTV yet?

Maybe it's the low size and lesser quality of the videos, but the animation looked wayyy better than anything I've ever seen from Bungie based on watching it on my HDTV.

Saw it on SpikeHD, still have it recorded actually :)

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2

Since 6897 Days

Oh god yes :D

And here is your video!

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topne...

Yo, I think that's a spartan 3 and not a spartan 2 guys. Something about the armor seems off and even the helmet... I don't know! Could this game be around Spartan 3s aka the inferior spartans?

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

vspectra06

Since 7712 Days

I'm just going to call it now, the gameplay won't have dynamic shadows and lighting like in the cutscenes. The way the characters are lit looks a bit too similar to Halo 3's cutscenes.

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Optimusv2

Since 6897 Days

Well, we can't be so certain just yet because this is an entirely new engine. The old Halo engine worked that way, but maybe this new one won't.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

vspectra06

Since 7712 Days

Bungie hasn't made any official statements on a new engine. Isn't that just rumors and speculation from neogaf?

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GrimThorne

Since 6878 Days

Posted by vspectra06

Bungie hasn't made any official statements on a new engine. Isn't that just rumors and speculation from neogaf?

I could be wrong but I don't think anyone at Bungie has ever been quoted saying that Reach was being created with a "new" gaming engine.

Posted by Ronsauce

When? They've shown cutscenes that have looked better than gameplay before, but they never claimed it was gameplay. It's your own damn fault for ever thinking it was.

LMAO! My own damn fault? You gotta be kiddin me! LOL! Boy someone's in a real touchy and defensive mood aren't they?

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Optimusv2

Since 6897 Days

Yep, they've absolutely stated reach to be on a new engine.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

BLackHawkodst

Since 5892 Days

vspectra and grim.

Wrong and Wrong!!!

AT 17:15mins - http://www.gametrailers.com/episode/bonusround/308...

Brain Jarrard

Something like Reach, obviously, we don't want to use a three, four year old engine and technology, so we typically tend to reinvent the wheel and build a new foundation for each big launch, and that's where a lot of our time goes.

Not only is it a brand new engine, but this is an in-game cutscence taking from the beginning of the actual game, so with a year to go the builds will get even better!

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Jin187

Since 6749 Days

Look at the detail on his face, I find it hilarious how people think this could be done using the Halo 3 engine lol!

I love how they have seriously upgraded the graphics but still maintained the original Halo look and feel.

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TheBeagle

Since 6611 Days

Well it sure looks like the same engine to me. Not that it looks bad. It just has that halo look.

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dcdelgado

Since 6865 Days

Posted by Jin187

Look at the detail on his face, I find it hilarious how people think this could be done using the Halo 3 engine lol!

I love how they have seriously upgraded the graphics but still maintained the original Halo look and feel.

Just watched the HD version on my TV, just wow looked CG like, love the new look and feel and its leaps and bound ahead of H3, i just watched the opening H3 cutscene then this one, amazing difference for sure.!! this game will own.

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Ronsauce

Since 6990 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Ron have you seen it full HD as in on your HDTV yet?

No. Spike isn't available in HD in Canada yet.

Maybe it's the low size and lesser quality of the videos, but the animation looked wayyy better than anything I've ever seen from Bungie based on watching it on my HDTV

Did you not read my second post? Also, video quality doesn't really matter; awkward animation can be spotted regardless of resolution.

Posted by vspectra06

I'm just going to call it now, the gameplay won't have dynamic shadows and lighting like in the cutscenes. The way the characters are lit looks a bit too similar to Halo 3's cutscenes.

My money's on this as well.

Posted by GrimThorne

LMAO! My own damn fault? You gotta be kiddin me! LOL! Boy someone's in a real touchy and defensive mood aren't they?

If you watched an obvious cutscene and jumped to the conclusion that the gameplay would look the same, then yes, it's your fault, especially in the absence of Bungie claiming that a cutscene is gameplay. And no, I'm not touchy or defensive, but I'm not a fan of people blaming others for their own naivety.

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[quote=Optimusv2]Ron have you seen it full HD as in on your HDTV yet?[/quote]
No. Spike isn't available in HD in Canada yet.

[quote]Maybe it's the low size and lesser quality of the videos, but the animation looked wayyy better than anything I've ever seen from Bungie based on watching it on my HDTV[/quote]
Did you not read my second post? Also, video quality doesn't really matter; awkward animation can be spotted regardless of resolution.

[quote=vspectra06]I'm just going to call it now, the gameplay won't have dynamic shadows and lighting like in the cutscenes. The way the characters are lit looks a bit too similar to Halo 3's cutscenes.[/quote]
My money's on this as well.

[quote=GrimThorne]LMAO! My own damn fault? You gotta be kiddin me! LOL! Boy someone's in a real touchy and defensive mood aren't they? [/quote]
If you watched an [i]obvious[/i] cutscene and jumped to the conclusion that the gameplay would look the same, then yes, it's [i]your[/i] fault, especially in the absence of Bungie claiming that a cutscene is gameplay. And no, I'm not touchy or defensive, but I'm not a fan of people blaming others for their own naivety.

Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

icemanufc

Since 5671 Days

Posted by dcdelgado

Just watched the HD version on my TV, just wow looked CG like, love the new look and feel and its leaps and bound ahead of H3, i just watched the opening H3 cutscene then this one, amazing difference for sure.!! this game will own.

Exactly the fact that people refuse to believe the game can look this good, just proves how great a job Bungie have done, i cant wait till the release next year!! :)

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Ronsauce

Since 6990 Days

Surely you don't think it's ridiculous that some people simply don't think the game will look this good as it is obviously a cut-scene, and cut-scenes tend to look better with more advanced lighting and post-processing effects?

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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

icemanufc

Since 5671 Days

yeah i know it wont look identical, but just like h3 cut-scene and gameplay it will look very similar.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 6949 Days

Ok that kinda made my groin tingle... but the music was arse

Bar the music and lack of ingame gameplay... looked good, well the video footage does.

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GrimThorne

Since 6878 Days

Posted by Ronsauce

If you watched an obvious cutscene and jumped to the conclusion that the gameplay would look the same, then yes, it's your fault, especially in the absence of Bungie claiming that a cutscene is gameplay. And no, I'm not touchy or defensive, but I'm not a fan of people blaming others for their own naivety.

First I'm Cpt Obvious and it's all my own damn fault, now I'm blaming others for my naivety?

.....sigh......

Ron I thought we were cool :(

Posted by ManThatYouFear

Ok that kinda made my groin tingle... but the music was arse

Bar the music and lack of ingame gameplay... looked good, well the video footage does.

You didn't like the music? Now the music was the about the only thing that impressed me. It was a true departure from what we've heard before.

The strings in Halo's previous scores are usually very low tempo and deliberately so, keeping in time with familiar Halo choir chant. But the strings in the Reach trailer were very intense and had a powerful crescendo.

It sounds like Marty is experimenting and stretching out a little bit and I like that. It shows at least that the composer is bringing his A game. Until we see some gameplay we won't know if the Bungie devs have brought theirs.

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[quote=Ronsauce]
If you watched an [i]obvious[/i] cutscene and jumped to the conclusion that the gameplay would look the same, then yes, it's [i]your[/i] fault, especially in the absence of Bungie claiming that a cutscene is gameplay. And no, I'm not touchy or defensive, but I'm not a fan of people blaming others for their own naivety.[/quote]

First I'm Cpt Obvious and it's all my own damn fault, now I'm blaming others for my naivety?

.....sigh......

Ron I thought we were cool    :(

[quote=ManThatYouFear]Ok that kinda made my groin tingle... but the music was arse

Bar the music and lack of ingame gameplay... looked good, well the video footage does.[/quote]

You didn't like the music?   Now the music was the about the only thing that impressed me.  It was a true departure from what we've heard before.

The strings in Halo's previous scores are usually very low tempo and deliberately so, keeping in time with familiar Halo choir chant.   But the strings in the Reach trailer were very intense and had a powerful crescendo.

It sounds like Marty is experimenting and stretching out a little bit and I like that.  It shows at least that the composer is bringing his A game. Until we see some gameplay we won't know if the Bungie devs have brought theirs.

Ronsauce

Since 6990 Days

IT'S NOT GAMEPLAY!!!

The fact that it's not gameplay is very obvious...so obvious, in fact, that writing it in bolded caps with three exclamation points is quite unnecessary.

I'm sorry Bungie but we've been down this road with you and you've played bait and switch with the graphics before.

That to me sounds like someone who was naive enough to think an obviously non-gameplay cutscene was actually gameplay and blames Bungie for pulling a "bait and switch" though I don't ever remember them claiming their cutscenes were actually representative of gameplay.

Ron I thought we were cool :(

Hey now...I still am :P

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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

ManThatYouFear

Since 6949 Days

Grim, that was probally why i did not like it, i will watch it again give the song a other chance now i know its not what i expected, but i love the halo soundtracks (not as much as mass effect or splinter cell 3) this just sounded odd.

*goes to watch it again*

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