Halo Reach

Since 6902 Days

Yea, the lack of epicness on the level of the previous Halo games wouldn't make much of a difference for me, because some of my favorite moments in the books are events that aren't as epic or large scale in nature, they are more low key.

I really didn't know the game appeared to have such a degree of character development. If I had known as much, I would've gotten it a long time ago. I've glanced at like 2 walkthrough vids and am pleasantly surprised.

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LEBATO

Since 7132 Days

Posted by BLackHawkodst

ODST was a good game with a great atmosphere.

ODST was an average, super short game with decent atmosphere.

The city is uninspiring, it's a deserted, boring place lacking in details. I usually enjoy Halo's symmetric looks, but they pushed it on this one. You walk for a few minutes from one end of the city to another just to see the exact same boring structure you just saw a few minutes ago, for the 20th time. Besides the first few trips, walking from one part of the city to another just feels rehashed.

And then the characters? Bungie tries to convey emotions with some truly outdated technology (animations). There's supposed to be some sort of love story going on which I was never able to tell whether it was a joke or real, but one thing is sure, that is one ugly ass woman.

I think ODST is a game worth playing, but not worth playing again (it's not worth having).

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Nietzsche

Since 6363 Days

I really enjoyed firefight a lot and I really do hope that they have a great firefight mode in REach with plenty of maps to support it and a proper match-making service this time.

But while the campaign was fun, it wasn't anything too amazing IMO and the MP was the same only three new maps so nothing special there. If the game had added something truly new to the MP I think people would have responded to it a bit better.

So no word on how long the beta will be up for then?

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INDIGO

Since 7712 Days

ODST was my favorite Halo SP campaign by far, at least in terms of storytelling and pacing.

Halo ODST = Haloshock Prime

And it worked well.

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Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

Posted by LEBATO

ODST was an average, super short game with decent atmosphere.

The city is uninspiring, it's a deserted, boring place lacking in details. I usually enjoy Halo's symmetric looks, but they pushed it on this one. You walk for a few minutes from one end of the city to another just to see the exact same boring structure you just saw a few minutes ago, for the 20th time. Besides the first few trips, walking from one part of the city to another just feels rehashed.

And then the characters? Bungie tries to convey emotions with some truly outdated technology (animations). There's supposed to be some sort of love story going on which I was never able to tell whether it was a joke or real, but one thing is sure, that is one ugly ass woman.

I think ODST is a game worth playing, but not worth playing again (it's not worth having).

Yea, the animations and how dated it looked was one of the things that turned me off, with great help from the fact that I was looking at it like some cash in that wasn't worth my time. But while graphics and animations can often times be a major annoyance for me -- mostly animations -- those are things that many times I can just easily push aside allowing myself to enjoy whatever story they are trying to present me with.

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[quote=LEBATO]
ODST was an average, super short game with decent atmosphere.

The city is uninspiring, it's a deserted, boring place lacking in details.  I usually enjoy Halo's symmetric looks, but they pushed it on this one.  You walk for a few minutes from one end of the city to another just to see the exact same boring structure you just saw a few minutes ago, for the 20th time. Besides the first few trips, walking from one part of the city to another just feels rehashed.

And then the characters?  Bungie tries to convey emotions with some truly outdated technology (animations).  There's supposed to be some sort of love story going on which I was never able to tell whether it was a joke or real, but one thing is sure, that is one ugly ass woman.

I think ODST is a game worth playing, but not worth playing again (it's not worth having).[/quote]

Yea, the animations and how dated it looked was one of the things that turned me off, with great help from the fact that I was looking at it like some cash in that wasn't worth my time. But while graphics and animations can often times be a major annoyance for me -- mostly animations --  those are things that many times I can just easily push aside allowing myself to enjoy whatever story they are trying to present me with.

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

icemanufc

Since 5676 Days

Bungie update, Beta info blowout!!

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topne...

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Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

I love the design of swordbase and I knew something was suspicious about this bad boy :D

Seems Bungie really weren't telling the whole truth, there is some alien influence to this location :D

Anyway, how’d this sweet, alien technology end up in the care of the Office of Naval Intelligence, you may wonder? Read the placard. Not everything in this sector has been classified.

Wait a minute... I think swordbase confirms that we'll see space combat :o

That isn't a ONI base, that's a damn Covenant ship, a flagship :o

The look of the map, the atrium and all the things I'm seeing vibe way too perfectly with the ship master chief, kelly and the rest of blue team, not including Kelly, snuck into to disrupt the Covenant at their rendezvous point where they were all gathering before they made the final approach to Earth prior to the events of Halo 2!

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

Oops my mistake, I meant Linda was the one that accompanied Chief on that mission with other members of Blue Team. Kelly wasn't there.

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Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

LEBATO

Since 7132 Days

Those maps are looking rather nice for MP, really nice.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 5897 Days

Awesome stuff!!

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TheFuriousOne

Since 7009 Days

Pics looks awesome, my only disappointment is that there will not be dynamic weather :*(

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Acert93

Since 6981 Days

http://www.bungie.net/news/content.aspx?type=topne...

I dunno. Looking at those there are a few nice ones, like this:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/sc...

But in general we are back to large, flat objects with repetitive texturing decals. Which means with sub-HD, no/little AA, and no/little AF the image quality is going to be far more washed out than the supersized promoshots they are showing. The following, in particular, won't look substantially better than what was seen in Halo 3 when resolution is reduced to gameplay levels and IQ is turned to gameplay mode.

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/sc...
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/sc...
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/sc...
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/sc...

I guess we have until September-November to find out.

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I dunno. Looking at those there are a few nice ones, like this:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_Overlook01.jpg

But in general we are back to large, flat objects with repetitive texturing decals. Which means with sub-HD, no/little AA, and no/little AF the image quality is going to be far more washed out than the supersized promoshots they are showing. The following, in particular, won't look substantially better than what was seen in Halo 3 when resolution is reduced to gameplay levels and IQ is turned to gameplay mode.

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_SwordBase.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_Swordbase04.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_Swordbase03.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_Swordbase02.jpg

I guess we have until September-November to find out.

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GriftGFX

Since 7010 Days

I'm hoping that people are talking about looks in terms of level design, which is something Bungie is great at.

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Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

I'm hoping that people are talking about looks in terms of level design, which is something Bungie is great at.

Well that's prob a given, but some are no doubt talking about the visual look of some of the maps. Overlook, for example, is straight from SP and furthest along artistically, which is why it looks so great.

Oh Acert, if you read the IGN interview, they pretty much explain it there. All MP maps were made for MP first and foremost, and were then passed on to SP campaign team to incorporate into large SP play space.

However, the one in particular you linked to -- the one you think looks rather nice -- is a map that was designed first and foremost as an SP level, and is taken directly from the game's SP campaign, with minor modifications. It's also the map that is furthest along artistically.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1082381p3.html

Lars Bakken: Overlook was chosen because we needed to use a Campaign-style map for the kinds of network testing we require for the Beta. This map is one of the furthest along artistically on the Campaign side, and it really fit with the design of the Network Test 1 gametype ("Generator Defense") you'll be playing on it. Where it's true that all the other maps you'll see in the Beta were built from the ground up for MP first, Overlook was hand-picked from existing Campaign content to fit this gametype's purpose. Don't think we didn't modify it to fit better in an MP-style experience though. There were lots of changes made to the layout, like opening up extra routes, or closing others off, to make it a more suitable map for multiplayer. We also made sure to smooth out any bumps and areas where players were getting caught, which is fundamental to a good multiplayer experience.

The one you think looks nice, was made first and foremost for the Campaign part of the game, and is the furthest along artistically, which is why it looks the best. I honestly don't expect many, if any MP maps, matching this one (Overlook), to be honest.

This one is Overlook

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[quote=GriftGFX]I'm hoping that people are talking about looks in terms of level design, which is something Bungie is great at.[/quote]

Well that's prob a given, but some are no doubt talking about the visual look of some of the maps. Overlook, for example, is straight from SP and furthest along artistically, which is why it looks so great.

Oh Acert, if you read the IGN interview, they pretty much explain it there. All MP maps were made for MP first and foremost, and were then passed on to SP campaign team to incorporate into large SP play space.

However, the one in particular you linked to -- the one you think looks rather nice -- is a map that was designed first and foremost as an SP level, and is taken directly from the game's SP campaign, with minor modifications. It's also the map that is furthest along artistically.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/108/1082381p3.html

[quote]Lars Bakken: [b]Overlook was chosen because we needed to use a Campaign-style map for the kinds of network testing we require for the Beta. This map is one of the furthest along artistically on the Campaign side, and it really fit with the design of the Network Test 1 gametype ("Generator Defense") you'll be playing on it. Where it's true that all the other maps you'll see in the Beta were built from the ground up for MP first, Overlook was hand-picked from existing Campaign content to fit this gametype's purpose.[/b] Don't think we didn't modify it to fit better in an MP-style experience though. There were lots of changes made to the layout, like opening up extra routes, or closing others off, to make it a more suitable map for multiplayer. We also made sure to smooth out any bumps and areas where players were getting caught, which is fundamental to a good multiplayer experience. [/quote]

The one you think looks nice, was made first and foremost for the Campaign part of the game, and is the furthest along artistically, which is why it looks the best. I honestly don't expect many, if any MP maps, matching this one (Overlook), to be honest.

This one is Overlook

[img]http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/screenshots/090410/Reach_MPBeta_Overlook01.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5072/haloreachthebetamaps201f.jpg[/img]

Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

http://www.nobleactual.com/post/514747248/pt4

PT4
Today I got to attend a playtest sesssion at the user research labs. Over the last couple of weeks we’ve had about 40 folks come in and play our “Playtest 4” milestone build. We’ve been talking a bit on this site about our progress on the multiplayer side of things, but a lot has been going into campaign in parallel. Although we don’t test campaign at anywhere near the scale of the multiplayer Beta, we do do our fair share of testing campaign with real users.

PT4 wasn’t even the first lab test of campaign, and in fact, much of campaign has been playable in rough form for some time now, but for this milestone the team really cranked up the level of polish, with environments receiving lots of love across the board, AI getting smarter, a lot more cinematics showing up, and real mission dialogue getting in for the first time ever - in other words a lot of things falling in to place that make the campaign feel real. Although there’s a million things left to do in the time we have remaining, PT4 is the first time it felt like a pretty fair snapshot of the game.

Internally it’s very difficult to look at the game with fresh eyes. When you’ve run through the environment a thousand times you know exactly where to go and how you’re going to tackle the encounters. So for that reason there’s nothing like seeing people play through the campaign for the very first time with no preconceptions. Wish we could say more but wouldn’t want to give away any details…

Meanwhile the Public Beta is just around the corner. The team has been putting serious hours into the Internal Beta, making all sorts of final tweaks so that when it goes out to you all (in less than a month, holy blam!) it’s as polished an experience as it can be. On that note, off to get my Arena rating for the day.

- Joe

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[quote]PT4
Today I got to attend a playtest sesssion at the user research labs.  Over the last couple of weeks we’ve had about 40 folks come in and play our “Playtest 4” milestone build.  We’ve been talking a bit on this site about our progress on the multiplayer side of things, but a lot has been going into campaign in parallel.  Although we don’t test campaign at anywhere near the scale of the multiplayer Beta, we do do our fair share of testing campaign with real users.

PT4 wasn’t even the first lab test of campaign, and in fact, [b]much of campaign has been playable in rough form for some time now, but for this milestone the team really cranked up the level of polish, with environments receiving lots of love across the board, AI getting smarter, a lot more cinematics showing up, and real mission dialogue getting in for the first time ever - in other words a lot of things falling in to place that make the campaign feel real.  Although there’s a million things left to do in the time we have remaining, PT4 is the first time it felt like a pretty fair snapshot of the game.[/b]

Internally it’s very difficult to look at the game with fresh eyes.  When you’ve run through the environment a thousand times you know exactly where to go and how you’re going to tackle the encounters.  So for that reason there’s nothing like seeing people play through the campaign for the very first time with no preconceptions.  Wish we could say more but wouldn’t want to give away any details…

Meanwhile the Public Beta is just around the corner.  The team has been putting serious hours into the Internal Beta, making all sorts of final tweaks so that when it goes out to you all (in less than a month, holy blam!) it’s as polished an experience as it can be.  On that note, off to get my Arena rating for the day.

- Joe
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dcdelgado

Since 6870 Days

Sweet, but i guess we will have to wait until E3 to see any updated campaign footage.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 6953 Days

I miss halo..

I was playing halo 2 with my kid ( its his favorite one... bloody idiot) and just got the halo bug.

Now i am intrested.

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deftangel

Since 6878 Days

I think I'm right in thinking they are all from one map (Swordbase) and the style looks to be an artistic choice to me. Besides, I've not seen any definitive evidence to indicate final resolution will or won't be 720p and/or the AA level. All we do know is that the latter will be "much improved" from Halo 3.

I'm not sure we've seen enough to draw those conclusions to be honest. There should be another exterior map revealed this week along with the Invasion game type which should give us something more to chew on.

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Viginti_Tres

Since 6512 Days

I'm quite sure the game will run at 720p with some kind of AA. There have been enough hints from Bungie that the IQ will be up to 2010 console standards. If it doesn't I'll be disappointed to say the least.

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blmbox

Since 6341 Days

I'd be surprised if it isn't up to the standard it should be.

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Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

I don't expect 720p, I do, however, expect it to look noticeably better in the IQ and aliasing department than was ever the case with Halo 3.

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th

Ronsauce

Since 6995 Days

720p would be nice...especially considering how high-profile the game is. If it's going to be sub-720p, then it damn well better have some decent AA. It didn't really bother me in Halo 3, but I was trying to play some ODST yesterday, and man, it was borderline unbearable.

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Optimusv2

Since 6902 Days

Halo 3 is one of the jaggiest games of this generation, easily. It's extremely distracting. From the Reach footage I've seen thus far, it would appear as if it isn't as big of an issue, but then the game isn't done yet.

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Halo Reach using 360 tesselation unit extensively.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of th