Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
Posted by dcdelgado
Looks like your right ops!! the reviews i think are going to be harsh, still picking this game up anyway, as i have always wanted to try a jrpg out and this ones mature story setting is more my type game.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/840/840035p1.html

some quotes:

In the six hours that I've played so far, Lost Odyssey has been a technical mess, with framerate problems in just about every cinema and on most maps, an animation system that looks like it was ported straight from a PS2 engine, and frequent, inconsistent load times accompanied by visual stuttering as new data loads in.

Barring a dramatic shift past the six hour mark, Lost Odyssey isn't going to blow people away with its visuals or presentation. But, aside from a few cliches here and there, all signs do point to an otherwise solid Japanese RPG.


I'll have to play to the end to see if the game's storyline can match the brilliance of the short story collection. At the very least, the game's story has grabbed my interest, in large part due to the hilarity of Kaim's early companion Jansen, voiced enthusiastically by Michael McGaharn. There have already been a number of awkward, juvenile dialogue situations, however, that I hope will be avoided as the story develops.

In case you were wondering (I certainly was), despite having an immortal protagonist, it is possible to see a game over screen in Lost Odyssey. Kaim and the other immortal characters don't actually die. When disabled in battle, they'll automatically revive themselves, with a small percentage of their HP, after a few turns. The game ends only if all members of the party are disabled at any given time. This actually happens quite a bit, as the game can be pretty tough as far as RPGs go, especially if you don't properly use the wall system and the pay attention to elemental properties of your foes
Haha awesome! I don't even know what to say lol everything shown has been impressive I really do have to wonder if honesty is at all apart of their jobs, but whatever I suppose. I really didn't think it would be possible to crap on lost odyssey this hard from what I've been looking at, but they found a way, they always find a way :)

This so far looks no different quality wise from some of the best final fantasy games (assuming from videos and stuff I watched via stream) and they are crapping on it this much? Lost Odyssey will get 6s and 7s in the USA. Sometimes it seems like paranoia on my part, but you see why I question these guys sometimes? Perhaps if Microsoft paid them that huge advertising money they'd have a more positive opinion of it :P

In 6 hours nothing except the dream sequences seemed to look good to them? None of the cutscenes? Most of the cutscenes were running really slow? Technical mess? huh?
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October 20th 2007 (A good day)

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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 6944 Days
WARNING! the info below is just estimates of A japanease website. take them with a HUGE pinch of salt

According to this source http://ameblo.jp/sinobi

Lost Odyssey has sold 40k on its first day. NOt good, not good at all.


Full list of First Day Sales Estimates :

Tales of Innocence (DS) : about 75k (About 50% of shipments)

Everbody's Golf Portable 2 (PSP) : about 40k

Lost Odyssey (360) : about 40k (About 50% of shipments)

PowerPro-kun Pocket 10 (DS) : about 20k

Yuusya no Kuse ni Namaiki da (PSP) : about 15k

Gintama: Gintama Quest (DS) : about 15k

No More Heroes (Wii) : about 10k

SILENT HILL ZERO (PSP) : about 10k

Virtua Fighter 5 Live Arena (360) : about 10k

Uncharted (PS3) : about 7k

Yakuza 2 (cheap edition) (PS2) : about 7k
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Bring on Lost Odyssey!

ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 6957 Days
For one i dont care if they only buy 1 copy over there and thats Jollipops import, as long as it does well in the west, which it wont ...
It wont sell well over there because it is NOT on PS3/Wii japanese probally see them as traitors for making it exclusive to there machine.. who knows, now ... I WANT IT NOW!
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deco
Since 6584 Days
Posted by Optimusv2
Haha awesome! I don't even know what to say lol everything shown has been impressive I really do have to wonder if honesty is at all apart of their jobs, but whatever I suppose. I really didn't think it would be possible to crap on lost odyssey this hard from what I've been looking at, but they found a way, they always find a way :)

This so far looks no different quality wise from some of the best final fantasy games (assuming from videos and stuff I watched via stream) and they are crapping on it this much? Lost Odyssey will get 6s and 7s in the USA. Sometimes it seems like paranoia on my part, but you see why I question these guys sometimes? Perhaps if Microsoft paid them that huge advertising money they'd have a more positive opinion of it :P

In 6 hours nothing except the dream sequences seemed to look good to them? None of the cutscenes? Most of the cutscenes were running really slow? Technical mess? huh?
Mass Effect was a technical mess and it didn't seem to bother anyone.
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 6957 Days
Because it had many other things on offer that made the issues look like nothing
Is Lost Odyssey going to have grandness to it like mass effect to cover up its issues
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
Well to be honest it's a much better made game than Blue dragon although the loading times can be horrendous.

I think its deffinately going to do better over here than Blue Dragon, I also think it will do better with reviews, I'm still only on disc one but so far the story has been incredible, with one huge twist which i didn't see coming.

The fights are a lot harder aswell, normal eneimes can hit you for up to half your HP, and knock your mages out in one hit, the wall system only last for the first 3-4 hits from what I can tell.

I did a video of the second boss fight It's only in 320x288 though :(, I'll get it online later.
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deco
Since 6584 Days
Posted by ManThatYouFear
Because it had many other things on offer that made the issues look like nothing
Is Lost Odyssey going to have grandness to it like mass effect to cover up its issues
That isn't the point, if they say lost odyssey is a technical mess then Mass Effect has to be considered as well, I love the story, combat pretty much everything, but the frame rates are horrendous at times. And the side missions are downright boring...I think it's fair to compare the two.
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alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 6944 Days
Posted by Jollipop
I did a video of the second boss fight It's only in 320x288 though :(, I'll get it online later.
Sweeeet Jolli. Bring it on!!!
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Bring on Lost Odyssey!

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
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Marumaro for the WIN !!

alimokrane
alimokrane
Since 6944 Days
OH MY THANK YOU SO MUCH jollipop! :D
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Bring on Lost Odyssey!

vspectra06
vspectra06
Since 7720 Days
They also complain about LO not being innovative and it's too similar to previous JRPGs. But they're all raving about Halo 3 being awesome even though it's basically plays the same as Halo 1 and 2.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
Just completed disc 1 and the ending cutscene was amazing, serious this is one beautiful game.. :D
Posted by alimokrane
OH MY THANK YOU SO MUCH jollipop! :D
No prob, it was a long ass battle so you will probably get bored half way through. :P
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ManThatYouFear
ManThatYouFear
Since 6957 Days
Posted by deco
That isn't the point, if they say lost odyssey is a technical mess then Mass Effect has to be considered as well, I love the story, combat pretty much everything, but the frame rates are horrendous at times. And the side missions are downright boring...I think it's fair to compare the two.
But it is the point, if a game is so grand then its fews technical issues should not matter, no game is perfect and we will never have a perfect game
And with Mass Effect through all its issues, i found to be the most satisfying and fantastic gaming experience since halo 1, it was brilliant, sloppy yes, but brilliant

And if lost odyssey has this brilliance witha good fighting mechanic and good story, then who cares if they struggled on the tech side.
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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
Well I think you guna start a war here.. lol

Personally I wasn't that impressed by Mass Effect, it doesn't even compare to Lost Odyssey, no surprises coming from me :P

But Story and Graphics so far are both better than in Mass Effect IMO, gameplay is down to the individual as many won't like this kind of combat.

Obviously there are frame rate issues and the loading times are horrible, but Mass Effect wasn't really the master of either of those either.

Seems my link died .. I'll upload it to gametrailers.
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6873 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Well I think you guna start a war here.. lol

Personally I wasn't that impressed by Mass Effect, it doesn't even compare to Lost Odyssey, no surprises coming from me :P

But Story and Graphics so far are both better than in Mass Effect IMO, gameplay is down to the individual as many won't like this kind of combat.

Obviously there are frame rate issues and the loading times are horrible, but Mass Effect wasn't really the master of either of those either.

Seems my link died .. I'll upload it to gametrailers.
If its war you want, then war you shall have!! :p

IMO no way in hell are LO in-game graphics better than M.E, no-way-in-hell!! (i'm not talking artstyles as thats all down to the individual). Right now thats sorted can you give me the link to the GT video you have uploaded :).
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Mass Effect - Nov 07 - Start the Fight!!!

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Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
Yea it is (you haven't seen much of the game remember), oh and LO managed to pull off what looks like AA x 4 aswell (although considering the framerate issues i'm not sure they should have).. :D

GT are still compressing it, will put it up when they have done it.
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dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6873 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Yea it is, oh and LO managed to pull off AA x 4 aswell (although considering the framerate issues i'm not sure they should have).. :D

GT are still compressing it, will put it up when they have done it.
Bah Never!!

So the JP vers of BD had issues to right?, did most of it get fixed b4 the US release?
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Mass Effect - Nov 07 - Start the Fight!!!

Bitches!!

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
Posted by Jollipop
Well to be honest it's a much better made game than Blue dragon although the loading times can be horrendous.

I think its deffinately going to do better over here than Blue Dragon, I also think it will do better with reviews, I'm still only on disc one but so far the story has been incredible, with one huge twist which i didn't see coming.

The fights are a lot harder aswell, normal eneimes can hit you for up to half your HP, and knock your mages out in one hit, the wall system only last for the first 3-4 hits from what I can tell.

I did a video of the second boss fight It's only in 320x288 though :(, I'll get it online later.
Glad to hear you're enjoying it Jolli. I mostly look to people like you or others that I know actually give a damn about this game for honest opinions because I simply don't trust the gaming sites.

I believed it would do better review wise as well until I saw the IGN comments. I'm actually now expecting worse reviews. Oh and Jolli isn't there a major spoiler in second boss fight? I definitely want to watch it, but I heard there might be a major spoiler in there let me know if its safe to check it out.
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Jollipop
Jollipop
Since 6896 Days
Nope no spoilers I promise. :D
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Marumaro for the WIN !!

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
Awesome wil check it out.

Its up on gametrailers?
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6873 Days
OK Joli that was a cool video, i disagree with IGN, i think the graphics look good. But i have to agree with them on the animations side, i mean some of those animations were laughable, i expect more from a next-gen game, and i can see thoes constant loading screens will be a problem too.

EDIT: what the hell were those glasses he was wearing about?
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Mass Effect - Nov 07 - Start the Fight!!!

Bitches!!

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
We know the animations aren't that impressive, but with this game I honestly don't think the animations bring the games down atleast not when looking at the total package. So far from all I've seen the loading screens are this game's biggest problem for me anyway. But then I'm happy they chose that route as opposed to constant texture pop in which could hurt the game even more i think personally.

Lost Odyssey is a next gen game sure, but its a traditionial jrpg and thas what it set out to be from the beginning it isn't trying to innovate too much on the technical side of things and I don't really think it has to, but from impressions it appears to do most of its attempts at innovating in regards to certain nuances regarding the battle system. You have any idea how excited I am that your strong characters can't just go around one killing majority of enemies in a single melee attack?
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
lol those glasses do look kinda gay :P but perhaps they gave him a power boost of some sort.

Very nice video jolli. I'm seriously surprised you got an enemy that took so long to take down so early in the game not bad I'm liking this thing more and more. :)

If there is anything at all that they can do for the usa release its to perhaps improve on the load times if possible. If not oh well I'll have a blast with it anyway. Really liking the body language I'm seeing from the characters as they get seriously hurt in a fight or seemingly get exhausted.
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

dcdelgado
dcdelgado
Since 6873 Days
C'mon Ops of course very bad animations can bring a game down, along with constant loadtimes in an rpg this can pull you out of the experience again and again!! there was me enjoying the banter in the video, then i see them moving like robots in the cutscean and it completly pulled me out of the moment of immersion. So far i'm liking the graphics and voicework, and Joli and some other players are saying the story is good, so thats good to hear.
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Mass Effect - Nov 07 - Start the Fight!!!

Bitches!!

Optimusv2
Optimusv2
Since 6906 Days
The animations aren't a big concern to me anymore really that ship has sailed for me when I first saw it and I thought the animations were funny looking so I accepted it then and didn't expect to see much improvement.

The load times, however, are my biggest beef with the game, but again its something I'm more than prepared to deal with because I want the game so much. I know it interferes with the experience, but I don't think it will be quite enough to seriously impact my enjoyment of this particular game.
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

October 20th 2007 (A good day)

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic gay-ming monthly! amirite

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