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Since 7589 DaysWhat's in this review makes my point: http://www.gameplanet.co.nz/pc/games/158267.Call-o...
It's the part of PC gamers being ok with FPS games also being on the consoles.. I also was ok with FPS games also being on the consoles, aslong as the PC version kept doing what was to be expected (free open online, and tweakable experience).. But now that they have dumbed down the PC version to consolestandards, they've done it.. It's so sad.. And I wouldn't be surprised if they pushed it even further and started charging for DLC on PC aswell.. Pay 15 bucks for a 4 map mappack or something, the money milking that's so normal on the consoles aswell.. I wouldn't be surprised if they really tried.. If you push it, you better do it all the way!
CoD:MW2 online on PC failed just as hard as Forza Motorsport 3's online did.. Same issue, they took away online standards and put a crappy no-choice matchmaking system in place..
They might aswell stop releasing alltogether tbh, if they aren't willing to keep up the standards.. FM3 online is a failure (only 600 people online at any given time), and so will CoD:MW2 online on PC be aswell (especially in the long run)..
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Since 6282 DaysThe sniper missions are the best Spec Ops missions in my opinion, based on what I've played. Communication is key, that's for sure.
Since 6936 DaysI get that you're upset that they gimped the PC version's online. I don't agree with their choice, and as such, I've opted to not buy it unless I can get it used, but it's NOT consoles gamers' fault. If anything, it's PC gamers', like yourself, fault. Deal with it.
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Since 6936 DaysThe sniper missions are the best Spec Ops missions in my opinion, based on what I've played. Communication is key, that's for sure.
Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.
Since 6951 DaysThis is capitalism. Your purchases weigh heavily into how this business operates. If everyone has the same shitty attitude, no changes will ever be beneficial to the consumer. I can totally understand why people fail to act; it's easy to get lured in by hype and to feel like you're missing out; it's easy to say, "my purchase isn't big enough to make a difference," but if people don't start changing their attitudes individually.. well.. it will get a lot worse before it ever gets better.
That said..
LMFAO
Since 6922 DaysI loved CoD4. I wouldn't pay $5/mo for it. I can barely tolerate Live. Activision is going to push it though--at some point the hungry little guys need to rise up.
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Since 6936 DaysZapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's-eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.
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Since 6951 DaysI'm not disagreeing with you here.. I agree that it's hypocritical to shift the blame when there is plenty of direct blame to go around!
Since 7589 DaysAt least GriftGFX gets the bit about consumer complacency.. And I especially targeted consolegamers because they've put up with the same limited online crap without real protest.. Infact, a lot of them even go as far as defend it (which I can only explain as ignorance or having lower standards) if you say anything bad about it (like I'm doing right now)..
P.s. is that screeny for real? If so, it just as laughable as it's sad..
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Since 6951 Dayshttp://bashandslash.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=65&...
The code for dedicated servers, lean, etc. is pretty much all still there!
Here are some examples from the code:
006D9298: 'We suck as host - ending the game',0Ah,0
0071EB98: 'set systemlink 0; set splitscreen 0; set onlinegame 1; exec default_xboxlive.cfg',0
0070573C: 'menu_xboxlive_privatelobby',0
0072A5CC: 'Amount to shift the player 3rd person model when leaning right',0
00787A50: 'Set to false to disable dx allocations (for dedicated server mode)',0
00701580: 'Show dedicated servers only',0
00702558: 'ui_browserShowDedicated',0
In the file, Xbox is mentioned 32 times
I mentioned earlier that you could edit your config file to get a more detailed view of your latency.. but I guess you can even tweak the priorities that the match making uses to find games. If what I'm hearing is correct, you can make it look for lower latency scenarios by editing a single line.. and apparently since the system has trouble finding games to match, it increases the chances that you get to host.. giving you a statistical advantage over default configs--how shitty.
edit: nvm the latter point. IW claims that config changes do not have an actual impact on match making. Perhaps people are just seeing a placebo effect in terms of how often they get to host.
Since 7589 DaysI wonder if CoD fans will accept the next step of being milked..
For Xbox 360 this would mean:
1. pay extra for game (to MS)
2. pay extra for online play (to MS)
3. pay extra for DLC (to IW/Activision)
4. pay extra again for online play (to IW/Activision)
5. only P2P online play
Oh joy!
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Since 6951 DaysIt still cracks me up that they put the developer console command in the manual, even though there's no dev console in the game. Way to rub it in, guys.
It also sorta sucks to see the community grasping for a way to unlock dedicated servers. If this happens a lot of new people will buy the game, and they're still supporting the P2P model with their wallets.. despite getting what they want. I can't see myself buying this game with a community fix.. and I also can't see how IW and Valve wouldn't try to get those changes added to VAC, locking out legit copies anyway.
People just don't seem to understand how capitalism works, especially post-supply and demand.
Since 7589 DaysBut anyway, reading stuff like that makes me feel even more sick (can't think of another word) about the future state of gaming..
Greedy CEO's and suits (that probably don't give a damn about videogames really) that invaded the gamingindustry aswell now.. How they love to come up with new 'buisinessmodels' to make even more money..
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Since 6922 DaysPeople who play on a platform select what is best out there for them, regardless of what another platform may or may not do.
While it would be nice if M2 had dedicated servers on the consoles, MW1 did NOT have them and even without them, while maybe inferior to the PC, was still better than many console games WITH dedicated servers.
That is the problem when people make a game people will play no matter what. Look at WoW. I won't touch the game but what, 15M people pay monthly. Why? Because it has value to them.
I won't pay $15/mo for CoD7. Will some people? Maybe. If IW makes money doing it they will, regardless of my boycott.
The REAL problem is we are not seeing a lot of great MP games to be so picky about whether you want ded servers or not on the consoles. If KZ2 had been a killer app maybe some tunes would change. But until that happens expect the top dogs to bleed blood from rocks.
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Since 6797 DaysDon't you know who I am? I'm the goddamned Banman.
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Since 6453 DaysThere is a market for subscription based online play, MS showed that. And when there is a market corps will try to cash in on it until someone new shows up and changes that. The fact is that we have monopolist like structures in the gaming industry and they will push the changes through that they like. In the end the consumer has little choice, either he gets along or he quits. The decentralized characteristic of the PC platform always ensured a lot of competition. Whenever that's still the case after the big shifts in the recent two years remains to be seen, I doubt it.
Console gamers don't have anything to do with the state of PC gaming. It's the lack of competition, that always has been present on the console market, that causes the PC market to approach the console market.
Since 6023 DaysAnyone had anything similar happen? is there anything i can do to get it to pop my achievements, dont wanna play anymore if it aint gonna register that ive done it.
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Since 6951 DaysThere's no way in hell that people will not buy a game if they think it's fun or worth the trouble... I don't think there is a way for the gamers to demand anything...
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Since 6894 DaysI think i have stood in poo
Since 6453 DaysWith the marketing machine behind the CoD games it's hard to believe they won't have any success, tho. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Since 6951 DaysThere's bitching in this thread by the previously informed, who purchased the game anyway. You can't bitch about consumer complacency and then turn around and throw gas on the fire.
It really is that simple.
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