I have noticed that there isn't much talk, hype, or even a lot of media for PGR4. IGN has been doing a spot where they highlight the cities (which each have 11 unlocked "tracks" to start off with) but that is about it, and not much talk here. Blims new footage on the homepage looks awesome. Just look at this:



Are the bikes killing the buzz? Is it the case of one bad element dragging down the game -- and if it weren't there people would be jazzed (i.e. less is more)? Or do people just not like PGR and like the true arcade games (NFS, Burnout) and Sims (Forza) and aren't much for the inbetween?

This is one of my major selling points on the 360. It plays well and looks great and has a ton of online features. So what gives?

Speaking of the demo, I had a tip off from someone on OXM UK there would be a demo during E3! I'll remember to take them with a pinch of salt next time :S

I think part of the reason is that everyone knows what they're getting with PGR4, it's almost assumed it's going to be good. The other games are new or could go either way so merit much more discussion.

I expect it to well though I hope MS get some cinema ads out as on the big screen they look awesome.

Very little cabin view has been shown. Which is surprising.

Microsoft doesn't want the story to be ruined or spoiled for us. In PGR4, we're going to get the conclusion to the Gotham quardrilogy, and the secret of who built these cars and where they came from will be revealed. The Master Mechanic is going to Finish the Race!

I am a lot of others are on the other side of the fence.

Personally, I love hybrids like PGR, I like sims, and absolutely hate arcade racers like NFS. I can handle a game like Burnout (not much of a racing game at all IMO) and Twisted Metal (woot) and I love Kart games (go Mario!) but a NFS game just is boring IMO and has little what I call... racing. And seeing as most sims lack any personality or style, I find it easy to be drawn into a game like PGR.I agree. I thought about writing BC, but they would ignore me.

They should be able to release media. Screw the bikes (if they still need tweaking, just hide them until ready) but I want to see some sun soaked coarses with 7 cars on screen. I want to see long, extended cockpit views. I want stuff to show people when they say, "PGR what?" and then go on about how great some lesser game looks.

The game's intro screen is b.e.a.u.t.i.f.u.l. The game has 4xMSAA (bye bye jaggies) and the IQ is amazing. 10 huge courses, each with 11 "tracks" (and more unlockable) and some spiffy graphics and weather.

And if you like the sense of a "movie racer" with exaggerated racing dynamics...

Anyhow, this is one of my top 5 games I want to get this winter. I will get tired of all the shooters, so I need a good racer to fall back on. Forza lacks a lot of personality and incentive other than "beat your last time" (and I really don't like the idea of rewarding Turn10 for outright being deceptive on technical issues like motion blur) so PGR4 is what I am angling for.

Idea... could it be that the FF Wheel recall has MS tenative about hyping a racing game?Hohoho! Yes it is. Even better Jolli, in the intro video on Gamersyde there is a shot of a vette... it looks real man. Not ingame (angle), but inengine realtime rendered and it is awesome. All that talk about GT's cars blowing PGR4 away take a back seat when you see it in motion.There are a few quick shots of it in the video -- awesome ones at that. So it is there... but it has very little exposire.

I think MS is making a mistake... just because it was a launch title doesn't mean people know stuff is there. There are like 10M new 360 customers who have no clue what PGR is.And Halo 3 hasn't added anything but the obvious. ME is like all those other Bioware games--it is the same outside the obvious additions. And CoD4? Nothing new but the obvious.

What is that supposed to mean, anyhow?

I don't know what people expect from a racer -- do you want it to do what Burnout did? Go from a racer to a virtual crash test game?

Typically doubling your courses, improving your graphics, fixing the online physics engine, adding more online modes and movie features, adding an entirely new vehicle class in motorcycles, and adding new gameplay dynamics like a really robust weather system...

I dunno, I see so many sequals that don't do much to the core gameplay or design and tack on only a few features + new story, that to me PGR4 sounds like they did a LOT to add to the core game.

They didn't even remove the 5 previous courses.

Then again I plan to spend most of my time on the simple ring :|