Did you manage to sign up for beta? Hope that you can show beta vids next week :)

After NDA lifted last night and tons of gameplay vids and previews came out Ghost Recon is now dead to me. We all thought Ubi would fuck it up and they well and truly have. Such a shame for such a great series to end up like this.

specifically, siege, so he's not wrong.

Garbage? No ive never said that! It's a decent console shooter in this day and age but a poor Rainbow Six game. Massive difference!

But yeah if you think Siege is so amazing you will likely love this as well. Ubi destroying another franchise for the kool aid drinkers and desperate for the COD/Battlefield money.

Why is this game garbage? What did they fuck up?

Note: this guy has terrible taste. period, so take what he says with a truck load of salt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlqRJBhgESU

That might be what Grift and Korndog want from a Ghost Recon game but certainly not what proper Ghost Recon fans want. That is Just Cause-Mercenaries meets Far Cry.

Graw was the start of the downward slope but it was still decent though! Janky AI what? We play GR for PvP not single player and the games pre Graw were increidible PvP games.

Anyway it's clear you love Ubi's new style of game geared towards causals and kool aid drinkers i hope you go on to have many great hours on this truly awful Ghost Recon title.

Siege is more like a CCTV simulator than a shooter, Tons of gagets to make life as easy as possible for you and 3 min matches = Rush.

Rainbow Six used to be about slow paced having to use your brain to figure out where the enemy is not using 100s of cameras and gadgets to do so and only having 3 mins to do so. Fuck even when you die in Siege you come back from the dead to be a cctv operator bucause people like you dont have the attention span to stay dead for any amount of time. Do you know what happens now in this Ghost Recon game when you die in Coop? You respawn close to your squad. Dear oh dear!!!

Arma aint out on consoles and Arma is a million miles away from games like Rainbow or Ghost Recon.

Since when was the older Ghost games considered Hardcore Simulation....you have no clue what your talking about. Ghost Recon was a tacital shooter.

Regardless of how good, bad or janky the Ghost Recon games were, they still had some Tactical Shooter elements that Wildlands seems to have abandoned in favor of a more streamlined system. That in of itself is not necessarily bad, sometimes it's good. But there's no denying it's very different than past Ghost Recon games.

EuroGamer made a great article about Wildlands, saying how the game is, what is different, what they liked and what they didn't liked. I was going to post this article yesterday, but didn't thought much people were interested in Wildlands. Either way, it's worth a read. But for those that only want the interesting parts, below are a few excerpts:

"If you had any expectations that Ghost Recon Wildlands would play anything like its predecessors in the tactical shooter series, it's probably best to put them to one side. This is a different take on the formula."

"So different is this spin on an old Ubisoft staple... ...that it's hard to see what's left of the older games. Wildlands does its own thing, and it feels like four-player co-op is at the very heart of what Ubisoft has designed here."

"So there's a little Just Cause in Wildland's free-flowing chaos, a little Crackdown in how it's willing to let you tackle its challenges as you please and a fair amount of The Crew in its drop-in/drop-out co-op that sees riotous multiplayer spread out across a generous map. In terms of any Ghost Recon, though? There are only minute traces of the tactical shooter as it's more commonly known."

EuroGamer - Looking for Ghost Recon in the Wildlands:
Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-01-25-looki...

Some people in the comments of the article say that the fact that Wildlands is less tactical is what appeals to them. While others complain that the fact that it is less tactical turns them off. Either way you look at it, Wildlands is very different than the old Ghost Recon games, regardless of how good or bad the game ends up being. Quite honestly, this interests me far more than the older games ever did, but it still feels like The Division in the jungle, but I might be wrong.

I will like to see you rushing on Siege just to laugh at you getting constantly kill

Yeah those that just want to jump in blow shit up have digger battles (jack fragz vid) and ride dirt bikes will most likely love it but as i say thats the last thing id expect or want to do in a ghost game.

Its a much more rush and gun game than proper Rainbow games. Its 3 mins a round ffs lol

Two things

1. Siege is not a rush and gun game. If you play like that on Siege you gonna get constantly kill.

2. Rush and gun is not equal to casual. Have you play Quake or Unreal Tournament. Those are rush and gun and they are far from casual.

You might be right, but I actually forgot about The Division's RPG elements. I meant as an "Online 4 Player Co-Op Third Person Shooter".

Also, Wildlands does have a Tech Tree in which you spend points and money from missions to acquire better weapons, gear and abilities, just like The Division, hence why to me at least the two look very similar.