Sega's made it pretty clear that they don't have any plans on continuing Shenmue, and I doubt that we'll see that change because of a campaign on a british gaming show. If they do ever decide to do Shenmue 3, it will be their own decision, and I have little doubt that they would do it at a time that was least fitting..I mean it is Sega we're talking about here.

I loves me some Sega, but they're not exactly famous for making good decisions.

They don't have to tell you yes or no, in so few words. Why would they? That pretty much puts them into a possition where they have to either do it or drop it for good--why would they do that? Sorry, I don't think Sega owes you anything Shenmue.

And so what if Shenmue Online is the answer?

I love Shenmue, especially Shenmue 2--but I guess that's where we stop agreeing on the subject. I could care less about them finishing the story at this point, it's been forever and I'm not much into videogame story telling (since for the most part, it's not worth caring about) when I could go read a book or something.

Go to the book store.
Buy a book.
Shutup and read. ;P

Then go play Yakuza and be happy that Sega is still kick'n.

And MMO's are not a waste of money--Especially in Asian markets, where they're serious money makers. I honestly don't get it, I mean, the MMO market can only support so many games, yet there seems to be a new Korean MMO every day.

I want one too, but begging and crying isn't going to get anyone anywhere. It's a bigger waste of time, and money, then a Shenmue MMORPG.

Shitty book? Some of the shittiest books are better than Shenmue, when it comes to story telling--give me a break. If you really wanted a good story, you wouldn't be investing so much time in turn based gaming--you'd get into the cinema or start reading more.

I mean, 20,000 people? Are you serious? I've seen bigger petitions for patches that never got a serious answer--for SUPPORT. 20,000 people begging them to make a new game isn't going to make a difference.

No, you don't want more from your games than that. You want storytelling, and less gameplay--so really, you want less out of games!

Seriously, man...Ms Pac Man had the best story...that's what's made it such a classic!

You can combine story telling and gaming, but story telling will never take the place of gameplay, in any genre. What made Shenmue great to me is what they were able to achieve in GAMEPLAY--not dry storytelling and horrible acting.

Seriously, why would you play games for story over gameplay? Shooters are not mindless--they are some of the most well designed games out there. Fighting games, too, are well designed. But who cares about Ryu's past? I just want to kick some ass, forgive me.

Games are about the act of playing a game. I love poker, I don't wish it had a better story. But the lack of narrative doesn't make it shallow either. I mean--mindless? Many shooters are far from mindless--some of them even have decent stories! Not that it matters, since the gameplay is what really counts. Mindless? Mindless and you think Final Fantasy 7 has a story worth the time? You could finish a much better book in the same amount of time. (and likewise, I don't care if you don't agree, but that's a fact!)

You want more from games..then great gameplay? There's nothing better.

I sorta still disagree, but oh well. People spend literally thousands of hours playing MMORPG's, and it's not because the story continues to drive them to do so. If you've played 500+ hours of a game and you're still playing it for the story then well..I don't know what to say. The point about poker and Ms Pacman are basically the same deal--games are games, and that's why gameplay is what makes them great.

And btw paint ball is NOTHING like shooting a real weapon. :P Shooting people for real isn't legal, so it's not a viable option. And for what it's worth, shooters have stories, some of the best in gaming. Almost none of them are told well, but that's another issue all together. It's okay, because story telling has yet to be done in any significant capacity in gaming. It's also okay because some of the best shooters out there have absolutly no story--but that's what you can get away with in a multiplayer game. Battlefield doesn't need a story, really (though 2142 has a backstory) UT doesn't need a story--Quake, even though it has one--never needed a story.

There is a big difference between reading a book and playing a videogame, you're right. One has the ability to convey a great story, and one doesn't ;P

I doubt Blue Dragon will go down in history as one of the world's great stories. If you're not buying it for gameplay as well as story, then you're not buying games to play games.

And Yakuza owns.

But obviously we disagree about something fundamental here. The reason this issue even came up is because I don't think I'm hurting for a new Shenmue anymore--because I could care less about them finishing the story up at this point. It held my interest while I played it--and I thought it was a great game--but my life isn't missing anything without it. I'd rather Sega keep on the track they're on right now--with a lot of great looking arcade games being born in this time between generations. If Sega gets around to finishing the Shenmue series then good for them and good for us..but 20,000 people begging for another game isn't going to do it.

When Sega first said that they did not have a Shenmue 3 in the works--I stopped worrying about it. That was enough information for me. And it's the only answer they really need to give. It's not coming, not any time soon--so don't expect it to. How is that not a good enough answer? They're not going to come out and say never when they don't know that themselves, at this point.

I'm just thankful that Sega is still here, their arcade line-up looks fantastic, and that's all I need. They've never been very good at the whole, well developed story thing, imo.

I just don't think they really need to explain themselves here. You want a reason? How about sales? How about just the fact that Sega is relatively stupid to what the world wants from them? I don't think they owe anyone anything here..no more then Ubisoft owes the world an answer for the lack of Beyond Good & Evil 2.

Well, I do want a Shenmue 3--I've already stated that in this thread. I just don't think that Sega owes anyone any answers here. Shenmue is dead, for the time being, I think it's time for people to let go.

And PSU is good fun--we already know that Sonic Team isn't all that these days--considering their last few titles I think that PSU is a big improvement. And it's held back by the limits of the PS2.

Would Shenmue really make much more sense than what they're doing now? Do you think it would be a big hit?

Afterburner is coming, and it looks incredable. I just don't think that 20,000 people is enough to change their direction. If Yu Suzuki is busy (what the hell is he up to, anyway? He's no longer at AM2?) even if it's just with the MMO, then they're going to let him do that right now...in my opinion they shouldn't provide any answers, because if they do it means they have to follow through, one way or the other.

I miss JSR, Nights, and Panzer Dragoon (though I'd rather another shooter) way more then Shenmue, personally. A new Jet Set--now that's something worth signing a petition for :P

I agree about PSU not being worth a monthly fee--unfortunately it has one--I plan on playing the game for a couple months anyway. I'm waiting for more content to show up first though..atleast that was the plan.

You can't secure something that does not exist. If Peter Moore really cared about Sega he would try harder to get VF to go multiplatform.

I was upset, but far from suprised. VF4/Evo being PS2 games pointed to this direction--and I actually think that it's a fairly sound decision if they HAVE to make it an exclusive (which they don't). I mean, the franchise is MUCH more popular in Japan, and so is the Sony brand--that much adds up.

But what doesn't make sense, is that they're not trying to grow the brand. VF5 should be played at Evolution, damnit! They need to work on getting people into it--the game is fine, better than fine, even.

I'd be happy with anything that got more Americans to play VF.