Well I just cant play BF3 like this, the jerky aiming on PS3 is garbage. I try my best to burst fire and follow the enemies with the aiming rather moving my character move instead but it doesnt work well.
I played Killzone 3 yesterday, 1 round after hours of BF3 just to compare the aiming and I was playing brilliantly, had tons of killstreaks going on. The ultra responsive and smooth feel of KZ3 (doesnt have aim assist in that game, go figure right lol) was great compared to BF3.
I usually aint this crappy in FPS like in BF3, hell not even in BC2 or beta I was this bad, but this patch is making it difficult for me to play and enjoy myself...and I am not the only one so something is wrong and DICE has to fix this as soon as possible.

Usually I say GG should look at DICE with BF for the sense of weightyness but responsiveness for their Killzone, now its the complete opposite. DICE should look at Killzone 3 and copy it off lol

I have tried various weapons and attachments, nothing seems to work. The AK74M with no scope, no foregrip and a heavy barrell seems to reduce the recoil for me.
I am pretty much playing as Assault the most since that class IMO has the weapons I like the most though Engineer has G36c, big fan!. I still havent gotten flash suppressor though, wish there was a way to check a list of unlockables and what rank is needed to get them.

Now the L85A2 looks very nice, reminds me of Killzone's ISA assault rifle, love the reloading and the front of the weapon, similair to FAMAS.
I dont have Back To Karkland so I cant use it unfortunetly.
Though I did start using Famas, without reflex scope I seem to have better aim control when shooting than with a scope.

About the 3600 DPI, I use it sometimes, rarely tbh (default is 1800) but then I put the game mouse sensitivity to somewhat low-med.

But in the end, I cant fully enjoy the guns when the aiming is this bad on PS3, I am trying but its difficult. Why cant DICE just check on the 360 version since that version seems to have spot on aim mechanic...havent heard any complaints so it must be right.

Oh btw, the knife in this game is a joke lol
Did they have butterknives handed to every soldier or what? I sweep one time and they dont die, twice, they dont die, its pretty dumb. The game basically has no melee for if you run out of ammo in close quarters tbh. Only way to use melee is if you go from the back so the game triggers an animation for stealing a dog tag.

Demize99 did a podcast with the community and they already said they went overboard with suppression and they'll decrease the effect. I didn't have a chance to try it since I'm on Xbox but from what I saw it definetely was way too much. While suppressed bullets would deviate as much as 1 meter from where you're shooting at 30 m distance. Sniping while suppressed is etirely impossible.

Suppresion is a good idea but if you go from clearly seeing to Stevie Wonder then they really need to change it.

I dont play much on PC, or at all, until I wanted to replay Crysis 2 MP out of boredom, so I just tried it out of curiosity at 3600 DPI.

I thought it was FAMAS lol
I looked at it again but it was a gun that looked like it, my bad lol.
Its the A-91 for Engineer.

The knife, I dont use it unless I am directly behind a enemy other than that its useless.

About the scopes, I need to use a reflex scope considering I dont like the design of the iron sights in this game, they use so much of the center of the view I cant see anything most of the time.
Tbh I dont like the scopes either, IMO the MW series has the best looking modern scopes and weapon details, they look very nice. Even the iron sight doesnt cover the entire center for me.

About the Battlelog, I just go to My Soldier on PS3 to check stats and stuff, I dont see any Battlelog :(
Unless its called something else? For now I check from internet browser.

Geez, you're talking like every gun looks like the Famas...



Sights are good for the most part. I play the M416 and M27 with iron sights exclusively (they are lovely) and for some reason I get a better visual feedback for burst fire making me a lot more accurate. All Russian guns except for the PKP and AN-94 have good sights, too.

And I don't get the point about scopes/holo sights. They don't look good? They look the same in every game. And if view obstruction is a problem there is the Kobra sight, you hardly notice it's on the gun.

Viginti

http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/1289305404.j... that doesnt look similair to FAMAS to you? and I didnt say "every weapon".

I was comparing the scope designs to MW series, they tend to look more...sleeker and smaller a bit. I just prefer those designs more.

Btw, anyone who thinks suppression is alright the way it is now should watch this.

Ah, alrighty.

Well I have been using the M416 + iron sight + foregrip + heavy barrell...I love it! It is a bit on the weak side interms of punch but the recoil is reduced ALOT for me, definitely my favorite so far.

Mini rant :P
I wish in BF3 when you use foregrip on a weapon the left arm would actually hold the grip like in MW series, just a small detail I like. I sometimes forget if I have it on or not until I check in customization or reload.

@Viginti: Elpresador lol

There is so many stuff and Engineer, Support and Assault is all great to use for all types of situations, its just so tasking to use a weapon you love and then start using it until you unlock what you need.
Now I added foregrip to M416 and like I said, its pretty nice, recoil is less. Sure the range might be off, but i mean its a AR, you shouldnt pick enemies so far off you know you are gonna waste bullets and be seen on enemy map.

I rather just get close as possible. I will experiment more with it, but so far that loadout seems to be solid.

Engineer aint bad, there is a G36C there, loved it since COD4 :D
And tbh I bought the shortcut pack for Engineer so I dont have much to get for weapons, but attachments, depends on the weapon.

I havent gone much with Support tbh, mostly Assault.

Aassault rifles is a all around weapon of choice, it works for any situation you will end up in, it has no real "primary", other than its mostly good for medium-long range. While in close quarters the best choice is SMGs and long range for snipers or bolt rifles.

You should get the M416 with a foregrip and see how its like, maybe you get the same feeling I am getting, or maybe otherwise.
It may be bogus, but I didnt play much after i found the loadout, but I will give it more gameplay time to see how it ends up. So far I find it very solid.

I never said assault rifles isnt great in long range, they are fantastic since majority of soldiers use it. I just meant they are perfect for med-long range, and yeah obviously all AR wont have the same pros and cons so not all of them have the best accuracy.

One thing I dont like is 3 shots bursts, sure its great for long range to keep a steady aim and precision, but when you get surprised by someone very near the other one will go full auto and have more chance to kill you.
Though I believe 3 burst shots packs more punch, i guess thats its pro.

Agreed, since thats how I play lol.
I like the ones that have 3 modes. Full auto, semi-burst and single shots.
But I dont play much with that, especially when I know its not safe if a enemy is flanking or something, then I need to be ready to empty my clip lol.

With a bit of practice you can easily control a full auto to single shot, thats what I do anyways.

On consoles I wish SELECT wasent the button to use for Spotter feature, it pisses me off to stop moving, spot someone and then move my thumb back to analog.
They should have added L3 analog click instead, it would be much faster and easier to ADS + move + spot.

As much as I love he M416, I feel the damage is weak, wish it dealt more damage.
I am sporting a M16A3 now with foregrip, reflex scope and a flashlight, not bad, pretty nice overal weapon.

The more I play it the more I start liking the game more than i originally though.
But the game has alot of wtf moments during gun-on-gun, like if I am shooting first and get more shots in, sometimes I die within a few shots and that aint a Magnum or shotgun.

Finally us Xbots got the patch, too. After 3 hours of playtime I really like this patch. I like how each weapon is different in its characteristics, something I've missed before.

That said there are some beastly guns out there, each exceptional in its role. I really liked the AK-74M and the AKS with heavy barrel. The M4A4 is still good, but considering you have to play more cautious anyway I find it hard to justify giving up the laser beam accuracy of the AKs. The SG553 seems to be a good middleground between the two.

I tried the M240B and from what I can tell this is a beastly gun. It drops enemies like no other, I love it. Haven't played with any other LMGs, but I'll definetely check out the RPK.

And I'm the last guy to scream overpowered, I didn't even think the FAMAS was OP since it had a lot of drawbacks that made it a one trick pony. But the SKS is seriously OP. That thing has virtually no recoil with a flash suppressor. It's so accurate I can drop enemies at virtually any distance and it has very good hip fire. The intended role is medium range combat, and it's probably the best weapon for that. But as far as I can tell it has no drawbacks. imo it should at least suffer a penalty in close range combat like any other sniper.

As for the rest of the changes, mostly I think they were good. Tanks were way too powerfull before the patch and imo they still are incredibly effective against infantry and even helis (with a competent tank crew that is). Ceramic armor extends their lifespan consierably, it's essentially a must have perk now. Of course you're finished when you get engy bombed, but that's the way it works and imo it makes tank combat way more interesting and fast paced.

And while everything runs faster and smother now the changes to suppression made infantry combat a crawl fest, I don't like it. The concept of it is good, but it's way too much. It shouldn't play any role at all at short ranges, imo.