Halo3: The Thread

Since 6445 Days

^^
Thank you for your elaborate post, much better than the "All that effort of yours... wasted. Nice try though!" now isn't it?

Yes, i read you there and follow your point. But my question remains, does the game deserve the round EDGE 10? Did BUNGIE being conservative on the core gameplay mechanics, and throwing in 4 player co-op playing, forge, mp customization (what customization is this?) proves to be enough and justify the 10?

Coming back to this post of yours in this thread http://gamersyde.com/game_798_21162_2_en.html where you so much praise CoD4 revolutionary gameplay, as opposed to HALO 3's (at the time apparently) lack of innovation, what do you think is left for the upcoming games, like CoD4?
And i mean in terms of praise, if HALO is that good, what about CoD4 that you praised so much, where will it fit?

And for you, these additions that you stated, (Forge, 4player co-op etc..) are enough to forget the old and tired gameplay that you so much stressed in this extensive post of yours? Shouldn't the 10s be reserved for the trully groundbraking?
That's what i fail to realize.

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Thank you for your elaborate post, much better than the "All that effort of yours... wasted. Nice try though!" now isn't it?

Yes, i read you there and follow your point. But my question remains, does the game deserve the round EDGE 10? Did BUNGIE being conservative on the core gameplay mechanics, and throwing in 4 player co-op playing, forge, mp customization (what customization is this?) proves to be enough and justify the 10?

Coming back to this post of yours in this thread http://gamersyde.com/game_798_21162_2_en.html where you so much praise CoD4 revolutionary gameplay, as opposed to HALO 3's (at the time apparently) lack of innovation, what do you think is left for the upcoming games, like CoD4? 
And i mean in terms of praise, if HALO is that good, what about CoD4 that you praised so much, where will it fit?

And for you, these additions that you stated, (Forge, 4player co-op etc..) are enough to forget the old and tired gameplay that you so much stressed in this extensive post of yours? Shouldn't the 10s be reserved for the trully groundbraking?
That's what i fail to realize.

Acert93

Since 6984 Days

Games can be really good in different ways.

CoD4 sings to me, personally, as I am a big fans of team/class/objective gameplay because it rewards more styles, thus more player types.

What I think Halo 3 is doing with social gaming is cutting edge. Do I think Halo 3 could have done more in the game mechanics without breaking Halo? YES! They did in Halo 2 and people loved duel wielding and vehicular countermeasures. But you take what you can get, and I am sure 8M Halo fans are drooling.

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ManThatYouFear

Since 6957 Days

dcdelgado Not in a million years could he deflate my happiness with this game, no matter how annoying he comes across, halo 3 has been everything i wanted and the only questioning i would do was the design layout for the final part ....

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mkk316

Since 6827 Days

Shouldnt a game that further refines its core gameplay, adds tons of replay with a solid MP, and have tons of value packed in with the game with Forge, 4player co-op, etc be deserving of a 10? Sometimes the overall value of the package is enough for one, even if the game itself isnt Jesus on a disc. Value people, value.

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jioann00

Since 6346 Days

hey ppl,.

i found this weird thing on halo 3s last level
its this strange computer thing and u click on it
then the camera zooms onto the screen and theres a mssg in alien writing, translated into english

and i think its from guilty spark
he refers to you as the master
and that he wont let you down or something
i duno i cant remember lol

well anyway, does this ring any bells with anyone?
anyone else found this?

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LEBATO

Since 7135 Days

For people who have finished Halo 3 already, could you tell me how far into the campaign am I?

I'm at the level after the desert one, where they throw you in a pelican in a beach area, hills have bits of snow too.

Needless to say don't spoil, so don't tell me how many levels are left either, just tell me half, one third left, one fourth left. Thanks!

Anyways, the last two levels have been really awesome :D

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Ronsauce

Since 6999 Days

Posted by jioann00

i found this weird thing on halo 3s last level
its this strange computer thing and u click on it
then the camera zooms onto the screen and theres a mssg in alien writing, translated into english

and i think its from guilty spark
he refers to you as the master
and that he wont let you down or something
i duno i cant remember lol

They aren't just on the last level, and I'm pretty sure they aren't from Guilty Spark to you. They're Forerunner computer terminals with old Forerunner messages on them. I think they just give a little back story.

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Negative

Since 6957 Days

@LEBATO if I can remember correctly, your about half through

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jioann00

Since 6346 Days

well that levels a long one...
which means that your about just over half way
not in levels, in length
you get me :)

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jioann00

Since 6346 Days

Posted by Ronsauce

They aren't just on the last level, and I'm pretty sure they aren't from Guilty Spark to you. They're Forerunner computer terminals with old Forerunner messages on them. I think they just give a little back story.

ahhhhhh!!
cool thanks,

well im the sort of person that reads a page of a book and cant remember what they just read, so i have no idea whats happening in halo games
confusing back story aint gonna help!!! :(

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LEBATO

Since 7135 Days

Posted by Negative

@LEBATO if I can remember correctly, your about half through

Really?

Posted by jioann00

well that levels a long one...
which means that your about just over half way
not in levels, in length
you get me :)

REALLY?

Cool, I'm having a blast, good to know I still have more to go. Thanks guys.

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Optimusv2

Since 6906 Days

Wow this game deserves every last one of those incredible reviews its gotten.

Still not done, but wow the game is exciting. Constantly feeling fresh a superb job all around with this game. Not sure exactly what aspect to praise they are all great.

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Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

I played Halo3 SP in co-op yesterday at a friends house.. We played from start to finish and were done with the game in about 7 hours.. I must say the SP was really cool, they obviously took a lot of good idea's from the 1st Halo game and brought it back for Halo3, which made it better then Halo2 for sure.. The end was especially fun..

So that was Halo3 for me.. Didn't buy it myself, but still played and finished it.. I'm glad I didn't buy it because 7-8 hours of SP is not enough for me to spend 60 euro's on.. If I was into the MP I would certainly buy it though..

P.s. is it correct the game doesn't play in full widescreen when playing co-op in splitscreen? We couldn't get the game to run fullscreen yesterday..

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FireWire

Since 7014 Days

Posted by Inflatable

I played Halo3 SP in co-op yesterday at a friends house.. We played from start to finish and were done with the game in about 7 hours..

Did u play it on legendary?......

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Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

No, I think it was on the default difficulty setting.. We still managed to die a couple of times though.. :P

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FireWire

Since 7014 Days

Posted by Inflatable

No, I think it was on the default difficulty setting.. We still managed to die a couple of times though.. :P

I think you should've instead played on legendary!
I've been playing like 15 hours or so to complete the whole campaign with 1 friend of mine on legendary... Sometimes it was really hard and coming up with new tactics to get past a section was actually pretty fun!

But it depends on what you wanted, I guess u finished the game and thought it was a nice experience so it's all good :D

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McErono

Since 6975 Days

lets talk about the technic for a second...

I can't believe it...

no AA, no AF, no stable 30fps and not even 720p?

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-70713.aspx

wtf did bungie do with this game!?

wait a minute... nice textures, nice HDR, no AA, only 640p? - its the PDZ engine! holy cow...

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dcdelgado

Since 6874 Days

And yet it scored higher and sold more than any other Next-Gen title could hope too, maybe devs should learn from this and get the gameplay and fun down first, instead of concentrating on "hey look at my pretty graphics, yeah i know my game n gameplay sucks but look at my pretty graphics!!"

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deftangel

Since 6882 Days

^^ Nice stealth troll. Clearly it isn't the PDZ engine and I've seen no problems with the frame rate, or even any problems being widely reported on.

Personally I'm not convinced on this 640p stuff either until I see a framebuffer grab.

So lets kibosh that little discussion before it begins ok?

Here's the weekly column from GamesIndustry.biz which talks about Halo :)

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=...

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GriftGFX

Since 7014 Days

After a handful more games tonight.. I'm loving Isolation, I love Epitaph, I love Last Resort, and I love Guardian. I'm not really sure about the other maps yet.. though I still have a lot of fun on Valhalla. It was at one point my least favorite beta map, but it grew on me quite a bit. It's a great map for sniper matches. I sorta hate Construct, but then again I've only played it like once so far.

I got a little frustrated at match making tonight. Shotty-Snipers came up four times in a row. I love sniping as much as the next guy, but that's a little excessive. I only got like, two BTB games in, but they were good fun. I really want to try single flag on Last Resort.. see if it can't bring back some of that Zanzibar magic.

MP looks great. I can remember when people swore the campaign would like "two to four times better" than multiplayer. Well that didn't happen. There are some pretty awesome looking segments in the campaign, but none that blow away Guardian or Last Resort visually. There are a few things about MP that I do find a little disappointing though. No hornets, no fire grenades, no scorpions, barely an energy sword or flamethrower in sight.. oh.. and the current state of Big Team Battle. They can easily fix most of these issues, and I hope they do. I have a feeling the energy sword will continue to be rare for all time now, which is a shame, because the gravity hammer sucks by comparison.

Overall I'm pretty pleased by the depth of options presented to us in MP, and I'm intrigued by the possibilities when it comes to custom game types that can be created with the help of Forge. They should totally have a "Crazy Shit" play list in match making where they take the best of what players can offer in custom games types and offer them up for everyone to take part in as a community.

Phaethon told me he loved saved films earlier -- but was unsure of Forge. I then told him we never would have had Rocket Racing if it wasn't for Forge, and I think he's changed his mind :)

All things considered, I liked the campaign but I thought bungie played it a little safe and delivered what is ultimately a pretty standard Halo experience. That's enough to sell me on four player co-op.. but I could more easily pick apart their decisions in the campaign than what we see in MP.. especially since most of the real issues I have with MP can be fixed with time and effort, and Forge. The campaign is perminent.

I don't think they should rely on the community to insert fire grenades and hornets into the MP experience though -- they should find a way to fit them into the BTB play list instead.

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After a handful more games tonight.. I'm loving Isolation, I love Epitaph, I love Last Resort, and I love Guardian. I'm not really sure about the other maps yet.. though I still have a lot of fun on Valhalla. It was at one point my least favorite beta map, but it grew on me quite a bit. It's a great map for sniper matches. I sorta hate Construct, but then again I've only played it like once so far.

I got a little frustrated at match making tonight. Shotty-Snipers came up four times in a row. I love sniping as much as the next guy, but that's a little excessive. I only got like, two BTB games in, but they were good fun. I really want to try single flag on Last Resort.. see if it can't bring back some of that Zanzibar magic.

MP looks great.  I can remember when people swore the campaign would like "two to four times better" than multiplayer. Well that didn't happen. There are some pretty awesome looking segments in the campaign, but none that blow away Guardian or Last Resort visually. There are a few things about MP that I do find a little disappointing though. No hornets, no fire grenades, no scorpions, barely an energy sword or flamethrower in sight.. oh.. and the current state of Big Team Battle.  They can easily fix most of these issues, and I hope they do.  I have a feeling the energy sword will continue to be rare for all time now, which is a shame, because the gravity hammer sucks by comparison.

Overall I'm pretty pleased by the depth of options presented to us in MP, and I'm intrigued by the possibilities when it comes to custom game types that can be created with the help of Forge. They should totally have a "Crazy Shit" play list in match making where they take the best of what players can offer in custom games types and offer them up for everyone to take part in as a community.

Phaethon told me he loved saved films earlier -- but was unsure of Forge. I then told him we never would have had Rocket Racing if it wasn't for Forge, and I think he's changed his mind :)

All things considered, I liked the campaign but I thought bungie played it a little safe and delivered what is ultimately a pretty standard Halo experience. That's enough to sell me on four player co-op.. but I could more easily pick apart their decisions in the campaign than what we see in MP.. especially since most of the real issues I have with MP can be fixed with time and effort, and Forge. The campaign is perminent.

I don't think they should rely on the community to insert fire grenades and hornets into the MP experience though -- they should find a way to fit them into the BTB play list instead.

Inflatable

Since 7651 Days

Posted by FireWire

I think you should've instead played on legendary!
I've been playing like 15 hours or so to complete the whole campaign with 1 friend of mine on legendary... Sometimes it was really hard and coming up with new tactics to get past a section was actually pretty fun!

But it depends on what you wanted, I guess u finished the game and thought it was a nice experience so it's all good :D

15 hours? Wauw, that's really long.. We just wanted to play the game in 1 afternoon/evening, and not have to keep going thru parts over & over because it was to hard.. But like I said, we still managed to die several times, so I can imagine how hard some parts are on the highest difficulty setting.. Especially later on in the game there are some crazy parts with the flood etc..

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TheBeagle

Since 6619 Days

Posted by jioann00

ahhhhhh!!
cool thanks,

well im the sort of person that reads a page of a book and cant remember what they just read, so i have no idea whats happening in halo games
confusing back story aint gonna help!!! :(

If you look at the achievements these have something to do with Marathon. I dont know any more than that though sorry. I just beat the game on Heroic today. Im not sure about the ending. The whole last level though was a nice throwback to Halo 1. I gotta say the game was pretty damn easy on Heroic. I cant wait to get stuck into some crazy custom games online.

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Jin187

Since 6758 Days

Posted by GriftGFX

After a handful more games tonight.. I'm loving Isolation, I love Epitaph, I love Last Resort, and I love Guardian. I'm not really sure about the other maps yet.. though I still have a lot of fun on Valhalla. It was at one point my least favorite beta map, but it grew on me quite a bit. It's a great map for sniper matches. I sorta hate Construct, but then again I've only played it like once so far.

I got a little frustrated at match making tonight. Shotty-Snipers came up four times in a row. I love sniping as much as the next guy, but that's a little excessive. I only got like, two BTB games in, but they were good fun. I really want to try single flag on Last Resort.. see if it can't bring back some of that Zanzibar magic.

MP looks great. I can remember when people swore the campaign would like "two to four times better" than multiplayer.

While i wouldnt go as far as saying it was 4 times better, the campagin was the and is definately the best part of this game for me, never have I been so entertained by a computer game in the space of 13hrs. Action/story/music/graphics/huge beautiful worlds/scale/wars/immmersion/suspence/emotion, it really has it all and its all done so well.

Posted by McErono

lets talk about the technic for a second...

I can't believe it...

no AA, no AF, no stable 30fps and not even 720p?

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-70713.aspx

wtf did bungie do with this game!?

wait a minute... nice textures, nice HDR, no AA, only 640p? - its the PDZ engine! holy cow...

lmao, posts like this are hilarious, its amazing how numbers, JUST numbers can have more impact on your thoughts than actually seeing the game yourself. Heres an exmaple of you.

"Wow, this game looks soo great, Bungie did a great job!"
"Wait a minute, I just read that this game is running in 640p, OMG this game looks horrible, Bungie WTF!!??? You screwed us over!!!"

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[quote=GriftGFX]After a handful more games tonight.. I'm loving Isolation, I love Epitaph, I love Last Resort, and I love Guardian. I'm not really sure about the other maps yet.. though I still have a lot of fun on Valhalla. It was at one point my least favorite beta map, but it grew on me quite a bit. It's a great map for sniper matches. I sorta hate Construct, but then again I've only played it like once so far.

I got a little frustrated at match making tonight. Shotty-Snipers came up four times in a row. I love sniping as much as the next guy, but that's a little excessive. I only got like, two BTB games in, but they were good fun. I really want to try single flag on Last Resort.. see if it can't bring back some of that Zanzibar magic.

MP looks great.  I can remember when people swore the campaign would like "two to four times better" than multiplayer. 
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While i wouldnt go as far as saying it was 4 times better, the campagin was the and is definately the best part of this game for me, never have I been so entertained by a computer game in the space of 13hrs.  Action/story/music/graphics/huge beautiful worlds/scale/wars/immmersion/suspence/emotion, it really has it all and its all done so well.

[quote=McErono]lets talk about the technic for a second...

I can't believe it...

no AA, no AF, no stable 30fps and not even 720p?

http://www.n4g.com/xbox360/NewsCom-70713.aspx

wtf did bungie do with this game!?

wait a minute... nice textures, nice HDR, no AA, only 640p? - its the PDZ engine! holy cow...[/quote]

lmao, posts like this are hilarious, its amazing how numbers, JUST numbers can have more impact on your thoughts than actually seeing the game yourself.  Heres an exmaple of you.

"Wow, this game looks soo great, Bungie did a great job!"
"Wait a minute, I just read that this game is running in 640p, OMG this game looks horrible, Bungie WTF!!??? You screwed us over!!!"

How Do You Silence the Millions of haters out there?

Create the Greatest game ever made...

Halo 3... Believe.

McErono

Since 6975 Days

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ROFL as if halo3 did look great in the first place your fanboy!

PDZ did not look worse at all 2 years ago but everbody was complaining about it. now the come with the same shit again, call it halo3 and everybody

best part ever:

"And yet it scored higher and sold more than any other Next-Gen title could hope too, maybe devs should learn from this and get the gameplay and fun down first, instead of concentrating on "hey look at my pretty graphics, yeah i know my game n gameplay sucks but look at my pretty graphics!!""

again, as if the gameplay and fun was any better than in lots of other shooters (besides online and coop) its all about hype, marketing and money from MS, nothing else.

looks like they got you too...

I warned you once. Quit trolling the Halo threads. BANNED for one week.

Jin187

Since 6758 Days

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Posted by McErono

again, as if the gameplay was any better than any other shooter (besides online and coop) its all about hype, marketilng and money from MS, nothing else.

So basically you've never played the game, ok opinions ignored, lets move on.

p.s. You do know that when it comes to reviews, its harder to live up to hype than live off it?

How Do You Silence the Millions of haters out there?

Create the Greatest game ever made...

Halo 3... Believe.

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