kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
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clearly they're out to mess with Optimus :p


anyway, nice to see it getting good scores. I've seen the TV ad at least 5 times a day. Quite shocked they're actually trying to push it, thought they would give it the BD treatment. Then again they don't have anything big coming out for the time being I don't think, well until Too Human if that May release is to be believed.
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Optimusv2
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Posté par kenshin2418
clearly they're out to mess with Optimus :p


anyway, nice to see it getting good scores. I've seen the TV ad at least 5 times a day. Quite shocked they're actually trying to push it, thought they would give it the BD treatment. Then again they don't have anything big coming out for the time being I don't think, well until Too Human if that May release is to be believed.
Yea seriously they are REALLY pushing the game.
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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
kenshin2418
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Posté par Optimusv2
Yea seriously they are REALLY pushing the game.
yeah, one of my friends went on like a 5 min rant on how it was a blatant FF rip-off earlier today when we saw it on I think ESPN. He's never heard of it till that ad. Anyway, I let him rant on then let him in on the SECRET. Needless to say he left a while ago to hit up Best Buy, but he's going to come back empty handed. They won't have it till Wed-Thurs. Too lazy to tell him the store I work at will have it today after 5pm :p
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wuffyx
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Posté par Jollipop
Thats probably because LO is still fresh in your mind and you are excited to continue it, personally I always feel different towards a game whilst playing it than when I look back at the experience.
I remember you said the same thing about Blue Dragon before :p
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TheBeagle
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So, you guys who have played the game, did you use the original voices or the dubs? Im considering getting this game. I just hope it wont kick my ass as bad as FF12. (dont laugh. I'm a JRPG noob)
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Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime.

Jollipop
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Posté par wuffyx
I remember you said the same thing about Blue Dragon before :p
Yup, whats your point ?
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So, you guys who have played the game, did you use the original voices or the dubs? Im considering getting this game. I just hope it wont kick my ass as bad as FF12. (dont laugh. I'm a JRPG noob)
Original voices are English, and yea its much harder than FF12.
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alimokrane
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Posté par TheBeagle
So, you guys who have played the game, did you use the original voices or the dubs? Im considering getting this game. I just hope it wont kick my ass as bad as FF12. (dont laugh. I'm a JRPG noob)
The Voice acting in English is SPOTLESS! one of the best in a game ever!
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TheBeagle
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Harder?! Fuck. I don't think I will buy it then.
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Strange memories on this nervous night in Las Vegas. Has it been five years? Six? It seems like a lifetime.

alimokrane
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Posté par TheBeagle
Harder?! Fuck. I don't think I will buy it then.
not frustrating hard mate . it's just the right difficulty!
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ACEfromRussia
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FF10 was harder
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UrukHaiPT
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Posté par TheBeagle
Harder?! Fuck. I don't think I will buy it then.
Think of the fights like a puzzle. You just need figure out, what is better to do first then second etc :)
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
SimonM7
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I'm having a good time with this. Uruk is right on the money that the battles feel like puzzles, which is why you're always confident that there IS A WAY to beat them. I'm uh.. I'm new to this whole jRPG thing so it was probably always like that I just wasn't aware.

Anyway, everything good about it is understood, so I won't go into what I like for a moment here, I wanna issue a complaint actually, directed at the "sad" bits of it. They're sad, plenty sad, bordering on tears more often than not... but this is the thing - they're sad, then they go on for like 10 minutes beyond the point of "sadness impact" for me, actually drowning out what was sad with ultra sentimentality.

I dunno why they can't cut some things short and just let them be as sad as the situation they portray, they always see the need to go on and on and on and add layers of crying and violins and everyone's face going :(

It's so frustrating because while they could easily make me cry, this is just the thing that keeps me from it. The first Dream actually had me with tears in my eyes because they realise when they've done what they need. Sadly, that's not the case with the ingame direction.

Case in point, spoiler for disc 1:
When Kaim realises Lirum is his daughter, the flashback is really powerful, and you know she's going to die. This is sad, this had me set up for a SHORYUKEN of sadness in the face. Beyond this point follows a long scene of sobbing and "saw you one last time!" and kids going "MUUUM!", shaking her. It cuts back and forth to Seth and Jansen twisting and turning with sad faces, and back to Kaim with an elaborate dialogue amounting to fluff fluff fluff. At this point, the SHORYUKEN of sadness had slowed down so much I could easily just move out of the way and watch as it flew past in slow motion.

Funeral ensues, collecting flowers was dull I thought, but lighting the torches was pretty effective hearing people go "you're doing good" about Mack. Then we get a scene that starts off with "I thought you'd cry more", this is sad, SHORYUKEN of sadness is readied. Scene spirals down into fluffy talk of "I'm gonna be strong!" and sobbing. wwwoooOOoooosh, shoryuken misses.

Mack darts into the forest with the miraculously revived flowers for mum to see. Fighting, fighting, Mack has weird forest flu, fight fight, there done. LO! Lirum responds to the children by making the flower root there and covers the place in full bloom. The realisation that she heard them is moving, SHOOOOOO....and goes on and on and on... RRRRYYYYYYUUUUUuuuu... and on.. and on... and "It's a miracle" *Kaim does elaborate "taking in the magic" pose.. children jump around... Kkkkkkk....Kkkkkkeeeeeeeeeeen. I'm safe. Ryu and Ken and Akuma all fly past and into the ocean. And drown.

So uh, yeah, while the game often DOES feel gripping, it all too often botches that with really bad direction. :(

I hope there's less hamfistedness later on.
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Jollipop
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I actually think the oppisite to you SImon in some ways.

I felts that after the sad scenes they are too quick forgoten and don't meld into the storyline much, it felt a bit like sad scene then 20 mins later everyones cheering and smiling forgetting that someone died not so long ago ... whats that about ?

I do agree that sometimes they go over the top, especially with the scene at end of disc one, it got kind of embarressing to watch because it was so drawn out as did that awful song of Cooke and Mack.

The short stories are written by a pretty famous manga script writer so thats probably why those didn't seem so akward though.
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SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
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Yeah I agree that they don't mesh with the overall story much. You definitely feel that you've got your "game bits" and your "story bits", and in the game bits there is dialogue and stuff that seems detached from the overall story.

However, I think there's an even more noticable divide between the dreams and the story you play in that sense, as the dreams feel truly epic yet subtle, and the events that play out - the ones Kaim seems so staggered by - are small potatoes in comparison. There's such a noticable chasm between "Dreams Kaim" and game Kaim that can't really be justified fully with "he's changed for reason X", and that's unfortunate.

The only reason these things bug us (or me anyway) is because it's sometimes *really* good, so I guess what sounds like criticism is just as much a compliment.

Where the story bits are sometimes a bit wonky, the game is consistently a good time anyway, so it doesn't ultimately matter a lot.
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alimokrane
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Im gonna confess here. I didnt read all those dream sequences. at a certain point I just didnt know why they were there in that particular moment of the game ..... dare I say it, it felt forced! luckily you can skip dreams completely which I am doing now and then go back and read them when I feel like it and I have to say I enjoy them more that way :D

Not to Simon's complaint. to each their own I guess Simon, I didnt feel like you did nor like jolli did .... read on below, it's all stuff on disc one

I actually thought having cooke go around the village and sort of look for flowers was truly EMOTIONAL especially the way that little Cooke runs around ... that was even sadder then the death scene itself! same thing goes for Mack and the torch lighting scene. The kaim Bit was TOTALLY unecessary given the nature of his character .... I would have felt better if they let Cooke gather the wood too or have mack do it instead.
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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
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Yeah...

To be honest I agree about the Cooke and Mack bits being effective, my beef is mainly with the way the cutscenes always seem to go on when they've made their point - in a great way even - a long time ago.
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alimokrane
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They do tend to be longer than needed - I agree but I think that has always been the way with all JRPGs even Final Fantasy overdoes it sometimes ... FFX pissed me beyond belief sometimes :D but I have grown to get past these little hick ups which clearly dont ruin the game one bit anyway :D

Coming from you, it's understandable since you're still in your very first JRPGs anyway ... believe me you will get used to it .... I know I did :D
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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

SimonM7 - The other mod's bitch
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Yeah I can imagine, they're not really directed by movie wizzes. I mean god knows you can tell in Metal Gear Solid too. :D
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alimokrane
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Absolutely. MGS is the perfect example too! man the cutscenes in the game could go on for hours! :D
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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

kenshin2418 - Junior Detective
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The US packaging sucks major ass. I'm not going to bitch as much as some other people have, but yeah, they could have done better. I'm just going to put them in my empty Shenmue case since it has 4 slots :p

Also, when I was at Gamestop one of the guys was trying to sway this guy who was on the fence about the game. I'm guessing the guy was retarded or something, since he asked if it played like FFXII and the Gamestop guy said yeah, exactly like it. Then he was like cool I like FFXII's gameplay, and purchased it. I just started laughing


@Cutscenes
At least they don't rival Xenosaga's. Be Happy for that!
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Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
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Gamefly shipped it out today, so if I'm lucky I'll get it by saturday, if not, monday. Either way it should give me enough time to finish DMC4. I just hope I can finish LO before my GOTY ships! Super Smash Bros Brawl! If I get stuck on a hard boss, the first thing I'll do is bother Optimus and alimo.
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Hey, I'm just like you. I put my pants on one leg at a - dammit, I knew I forgot something today.

alimokrane
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Posté par kenshin2418
The US packaging sucks major ass. I'm not going to bitch as much as some other people have, but yeah, they could have done better. I'm just going to put them in my empty Shenmue case since it has 4 slots :p

Also, when I was at Gamestop one of the guys was trying to sway this guy who was on the fence about the game. I'm guessing the guy was retarded or something, since he asked if it played like FFXII and the Gamestop guy said yeah, exactly like it. Then he was like cool I like FFXII's gameplay, and purchased it. I just started laughing


@Cutscenes
At least they don't rival Xenosaga's. Be Happy for that!
What's wrong with the US packaging ????
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NARUTO/AVATAR are the best anime EVER!!!
Bring on LOST ODYSSEY & CRY ON!

Phaethon360 - Mr Pant<s>s</s>ies
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Regular Edition:




Collector's Edition:

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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Woah, that's awesome. I might buy it now :P
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Optimusv2
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That's the most expensive looking Collector's Edition I have ever laid eyes on.

Microsoft has all that money for a reason.
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