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GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
GriftGFX
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Vietnam is fun, but the level design is a little hit-or-miss. I also don't like how it's basically on hardcore even when it's not. I mean, sure, the damage model is okay, but I don't really love how it's worlds apart from vanilla. The AK-47 makes all of the guns in the regular game seem extremely weak. Bullet drop affecting all weapons more directly in BF3 could have a huge impact on how different it might feel (than BC2). No more headshotting folks from across the map with ease, I'm guessing. Oh--squad deathmatch is fucking great. I know it's not very popular but I seriously hope that some form of squad dm makes it into BF3 too. It's a killer idea.

pop-pop-pop you're dead...
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  • 09/03/2011 à 04:33:33
Viginti_Tres
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I like the damage model of Vietnam more, but I guess it's a ballancing issue. The MG3 needs 8 bullets to kill with mag ammo, and it's (imo) the best gun in the game. Bringing everything down to a more realistic number would make the M16 a one burst kill, and due to the nature of the game there'd be more camping.

I hope they find another good way to ballance this in BF3. Changing the recoil pattern might be the right way, BC2s/vietnam's recoil is predictable which makes these guns very accurate across the map. Judging by the demo video they've done exactly that.
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  • 09/03/2011 à 11:07:46
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Yeah, I wasn't really being critical of the damage model, just the gap between Vietnam and vanilla. Bullet drop should address the accuracy issue, which I honestly have mixed feelings about. It was increasingly difficult to hit targets at range in BF2, and I've become quite used to picking people off from afar in BC2. I'm willing to take pretty much anything they give me at this point though :D And boy do I hope there are AK's in BF3.
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  • 09/03/2011 à 19:50:58
Tinks
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I don't have issues with damage, but I do have issue with hit boxes. Namely when crouched, the hit box is pretty odd
You can win a 1on1 gunfight often if you are the one who crouches
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  • 10/03/2011 à 16:50:59
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Uh-oh, better take that stance out of the game too! I wonder if you'll even be able to move in Bad Company 3.

Damn crouch-shotters. They need to implement some kind of delay/penalty.
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  • 10/03/2011 à 16:52:22
Tinks
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Or they could manipulate and correct the hit box to properly detect head shots and damage?
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  • 11/03/2011 à 01:46:30
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Posté par Tinks
Or they could manipulate and correct the hit box to properly detect head shots and damage?
Is that a question? Yes.

I also don't know if it's possibly different on consoles. There's a lot of hitbox issues with this game, and a lot of it has to do with server lag. They've addressed this issue somewhat (last summer) by expanding hitboxes when there's player movement. It's a bit of a rough fix, but it works, I guess. It's also totally possible to get headshots on crouching opponents, so I sorta think that these issues are a little overblown. If you're dissatisfied with the advantage that crouching gives players, the best response is to crouch.
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  • 11/03/2011 à 02:59:25
Viginti_Tres
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Posté par Tinks
You can win a 1on1 gunfight often if you are the one who crouches
What an insane thought!
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  • 11/03/2011 à 19:44:52
Tinks
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I posed it as a question because I didn't understand how that joke was even applicable

The hit box for crouching in BC2 is trash
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  • 11/03/2011 à 20:30:32
scoobs0688
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Just checking in to say that running BC2 @ 1080p, 32x AA, 16xAF and smooth as butter... fuck me this is amazing
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Currently playing: Bad Company 2(PC), Uncharted 2(PS3), Dead Space (PS3)

  • 11/03/2011 à 23:50:21
PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
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lol, that's pretty insane scoobs.
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  • 12/03/2011 à 00:03:40
scoobs0688
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So THIS is the next generation :) Gonna be interesting to see how BF3 runs on this. I'd imagine I could pull similar results if I tune down the AA
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Currently playing: Bad Company 2(PC), Uncharted 2(PS3), Dead Space (PS3)

  • 12/03/2011 à 00:05:47
PlumbDrumb - Still drinking
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yeah, that's pretty excessive anyway, but it must be nice to be able to do that.
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  • 12/03/2011 à 01:20:51
Doom_Bringer - I have terrible taste
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yea I have been playing BC2 since last year at 1080p and to me Battlefield 1943 on PS3 looks just fine...there isn't a generational gap between the pc/console engines
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  • 12/03/2011 à 02:48:32
scoobs0688
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Posté par Doom_Bringer
yea I have been playing BC2 since last year at 1080p and to me Battlefield 1943 on PS3 looks just fine...there isn't a generational gap between the pc/console engines
Well considering you are playing @720p... maybe with little to no AA or AF. And I'm @ 1080p with a ludicrous amount of it. I'd say its a pretty big gap
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Currently playing: Bad Company 2(PC), Uncharted 2(PS3), Dead Space (PS3)

  • 12/03/2011 à 06:39:18
rayy
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/293407/news/b...
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DICE has conceded that its gorgeous upcoming shooter Battlefield 3 will have to be "scaled down" onto PS3 and 360, but claimed that the game will still be "amazing" on both platforms. CVG saw the game running on PC at GDC earlier this month, and it's shaping up to be very special indeed.



However, DICE boss Karl Magnus Troedsson admitted that developing the game on PC will inevitably lead to the non-360 and PS3 SKU being the most advanced option. "PC is the leading platform, conceptually, for this game, definitely. We are going to make this game on 360 and PlayStation 3 as well, [but] we need to scale it down to those platforms," he told the latest issue of PC Gamer in a special preview.
Yes, thank you Dice. Pre-Order done.
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  • 15/03/2011 à 17:38:58
Tinks
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They played the full demo at PAX
My friends said it looked glorious
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  • 15/03/2011 à 18:22:01
Ronsauce
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However, DICE boss Karl Magnus Troedsson admitted that developing the game on PC will inevitably lead to the non-360 and PS3 SKU being the most advanced option.
What a...non-smart way of saying PC.
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Zapp Brannigan: If we can hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards...Checkmate.

  • 15/03/2011 à 19:55:53
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Nah they clearly mean Wii. It's sorta a ridiculous subject anyway. The PC version of BC2 is technically "the most advanced option" and it's a console port. What a silly discussion to have.
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  • 15/03/2011 à 20:28:31
crookedmind
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I see they still have high-contrast lighting problems. All those shadows are impossible in that type of light realistically. This was an issue with BF2 as well, was either no shadows or almost black leading to very frustrating situations under pressure.

I hope that is fixed. I also hope that the cone-fire and damage system is not as bad as the Bad Company 2 versions (both console and PC, Console actually being an improvement over PC).
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  • 16/03/2011 à 05:04:58
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b77Z_50xpHE

Fault line Episode 2. Ridiculously boring trailer for such a ridiculously exciting game. It still looks wonderful, and there's actually a lot of content in there that I wanted to see (crawling, rocket launcher, etc)--but seriously--YAWN. Oh and I'm a little disappointed that they didn't show the transition to the prone stance. I would very much like to see how they're handling stance changes. It makes me wonder if they've got that properly sorted yet.
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  • 16/03/2011 à 14:51:22
mt_sabao
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Posté par GriftGFX
Oh and I'm a little disappointed that they didn't show the transition to the prone stance. I would very much like to see how they're handling stance changes. It makes me wonder if they've got that properly sorted yet.
Also noticed that. Probably still not fully implemented, too soon maybe.
Oh, and any quiet footage that ends with that amazing tune RANKANKAN KANKAN KA wins :)
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  • 16/03/2011 à 14:59:12
szaromir
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Stop posting Call of Duty trailers, please. It's a Battlefield thread.
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"That just happened 'cause that was awesome" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox

  • 16/03/2011 à 21:10:45
blmbox
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That joke is really dull now.
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  • 16/03/2011 à 22:50:05
GriftGFX - He can also<br>ban your ass!
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Posté par blmbox
That joke is really dull now.
Just like Call of Duty!
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  • 16/03/2011 à 23:12:56
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