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When it works it FEELS great, love the meaty sound of...well...everything from footsteps, to gunfire. Sound wise it's orgasmic, especially with my 5.1 headset, and i love its very team focused mechanics(spawning on squad), it actually feels like you're a squad of soldiers moving up the field towards an objective, even if you're all pretty much lone-wolfing it. It just feels very satisfying. But only when it works. Putting the downright embarassing and awful bugs and glitches aside, the EA servers themselves are just broken. Constant disconnects and mid game boots. just pathetic, even for a "beta"

In it's current state it's an effort to enjoy. But i HAVE been able to enjoy it. I just wish i could do it without falling through the floor, experiencing stalls, lag and server disconnects.

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Tomarru

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Just played my first game of caspian, stunning. Sound is amazing. Problem is the hideous lag, tanks warping about randomly changing direction, players bouncing back and forth.

There is MASSIVE potential there, its just so broken though. If they fix their net code and servers it's awesome. If the graphical glitches disappear, it's awesome (anyone else on pc sometimes get like single white /blue flashes every few seconds when the spawn?). But as is, it's almost unplayable.

Also, chat window needs changed, it disappears too quickly and is too easily ignored mid game. And the menus need fixed, I should be able to esc whenever I want. And battlelog needs fixed, it randomly works or doesnt.

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KORNdog

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Yeah, forgot about the chat. Broken. Tried to get a squad on the go, only for 1 of my 3 mates to be able to hear me, but everyone else being blocked out. For a game about teamwork, they sure do make it difficult. Lots for them to fix.

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Phaethon360

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Tinks

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Posté par Tomarru

Sometimes i love it, sometimes i hate it. The clipping issues is huge, it was even part of BC2 although not as bad. Theres just something with the netcode that makes the game feel cartoony or fake, it just doesnt FEEL solid. COD, for all its failings nails the feeling of running around the world. Sure they have made massive strides from BC2 in terms of the feel of it, but its still a bit short of the mark.

That's interesting because I'm of the opinion that BC2 feels better than MW. MW is more twitch and unrealistically quick to me.

I've heard the Conquest Map that requires you to provide a code is glorious and works basically flawless. You earn rockets and bombs for the planes too which is really cool. My friend also told me you can hear yourself breathing into the oxygen mask over your face while you fly! So cool.

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GriftGFX

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I'm having a blast... when I don't get disconnected and lose all my points! I'll be patient with the bugs though. I enjoy the game enough to suffer through a messy launch even.. so long as they support the hell out of it.

I am loving the AEK so much right now. I unlocked the F2000 tonight too. Also good. I can't wait to see how the AN-94 holds up in this game :D

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FireWire

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I'm digging the beta (except battlelog and the huge amounts of bugs) but I think I'll hold off with buying the game until the end of the year and see how Dice manages to patch things up.
Because let's be honest they are not going to be able to get this game cleaned up in time..

There's some really frustrating issues like the mid game disconnects and the game constantly switching to windowed mode when a round ends.
Then there's the smaller issues like the squad system being as unintuitive as possible and not having a main menu that I can access at all times (not just when I'm alive and in the game)

I really hope Dice can pull it off but looking at this realistically; this is going to be a messy launch..

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"First come smiles, then comes lies. Last is gunfire"

Tomarru

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Eugh just had a weird gfx bug, spawned inside a building then all of a sudden this big glitchy square are appeared above my weapon like a motion blur image but taking up 90% of the screen. Changed weapon and smaller weapons were effected less, but couldnt get rid of the glitch until i quit.

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Phaethon360

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Agreed. If I hadn't gotten this game at a discount pre-ordered I'd be holding off. That and this game has never been smooth for me, or at least as smooth as Bad Company 2 was, even at the lowest settings. Until I feel like upgrading my GPU I'll be on the side lines.

Also, I hate these little flashes in the game when moving. My entire screen flashes white or gray for a split millesecond. So annoying. And enemies are seemingly taking advantage of falling through the map by running under the metro area and shooting. Fix it fix it fix it fix it. Fix it fix it! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYc05gZFly0&feature...

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Tomarru

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I get the same thing phaethon, mentioned it in a previous post i think. Very annoying, although only seems to happen every now and then for 5 - 10 seconds.

Also the performance is due to my HDD, any time my perf drops my HDD light chugs so theres a lot of streaming going on, it aint even using all my RAM either. Think its just massively unoptimised or I need a good defrag.

All the gfx bugs seem to be limited to caspian border, metro is fine other than the clipping issues. It's very strange.

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GriftGFX

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Hold off? lol... no way.

People are blowing the bugs way out of proportion. It's hardly the worst preview build I've played this year. I actually had someone say to me, "I sure hope this isn't the final build." What the fuck? No this is not the final build. This build was ready to launch weeks ago. Don't be daft. The worst of it is the clipping bug, and that's only in Op Metro, and since it worked before (alpha), I'm certain they can fix it so it works again, if it doesn't already in the actual retail build.

The broken squad join menu is a bigger deal than the clipping bug or any glitchy behavior. Hell this build is buggier than the alpha was. I'm not particularly worried. It's not like this isn't an old ass build. Will the mess be a little messy? Probably. So long as I don't get disconnected though, this is the best game I've played in years

When I get on a server that's working (most glitches seem very server dependent), and not crashing, I'll play for hours without issue. It's the way to go. The game really blossoms when you manage to do that with a real squad.

Anyway--this is probably easier than posting usernames: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/Neo_Boga...

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Hold off? lol... no way.

People are blowing the bugs way out of proportion. It's hardly the worst preview build I've played [i]this year[/i]. I actually had someone say to me, "I sure hope this isn't the final build." What the fuck? No this is not the final build. This build was ready to launch weeks ago. Don't be daft. The worst of it is the clipping bug, and that's only in Op Metro, and since it worked before (alpha), I'm certain they can fix it so it works again, if it doesn't already in the actual retail build.

The broken squad join menu is a bigger deal than the clipping bug or any glitchy behavior. Hell this build is buggier than the alpha was. I'm not particularly worried. It's not like this isn't an old ass build. Will the mess be a little messy? Probably. So long as I don't get disconnected though, this is the best game I've played [i]in years[/i]

When I get on a server that's working (most glitches seem very server dependent), and not crashing, I'll play for hours without issue. It's the way to go. The game really blossoms when you manage to do that with a real squad.

Anyway--this is probably easier than posting usernames: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/user/Neo_Bogard/

ManThatYouFear

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I is beta, what do people expect?

Please dont tell me the people on this site are like GT and co and think that BETAS are ..you know.. actual demos.

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FireWire

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Posté par ManThatYouFear

I is beta, what do people expect?

Please dont tell me the people on this site are like GT and co and think that BETAS are ..you know.. actual demos.

No we don't but I can be realistic about this shit and say all of this isn't going to be fixed in a couple of weeks and the launch will be pretty bumpy..
I'll wait till the end of the year to dive in to this thing..

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"First come smiles, then comes lies. Last is gunfire"

KORNdog

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Posté par ManThatYouFear

I is beta, what do people expect?

Please dont tell me the people on this site are like GT and co and think that BETAS are ..you know.. actual demos.

you actually think this is a genuine beta? a month away from release? just like 99% of "betas", this is a demo. and an incredibly glitchy one at that.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par KORNdog

you actually think this is a genuine beta? a month away from release? just like 99% of "betas", this is a demo. and an incredibly glitchy one at that.

It's not a traditional beta but it's still an old ass build.

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KORNdog

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Posté par GriftGFX

It's not a traditional beta but it's still an old ass build.

sadly, probably not "old ass" enough to fix everything. i've heard it's 3-4 weeks old yet it has bugs of an alpha. i dont have much faith it'll be sorted for launch. which is a shame, since the game plays well.

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Tomarru

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Well, battlelog is right up to date and it's a mess and very much integral to how you play the game. Having an outside game browser was a disasterous idea.

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GriftGFX

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Well, battlelog is right up to date and it's a mess and very much integral to how you play the game. Having an outside game browser was a disasterous idea.

Why? It's faster to navigate than BC2 or BF2, and quicker to return to from game than BC2 by a large margin.

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sadly, probably not "old ass" enough to fix everything. i've heard it's 3-4 weeks old yet it has bugs of an alpha. i dont have much faith it'll be sorted for launch. which is a shame, since the game plays well.

True.. I don't expect the launch to be anything short of chaotic. I just think that it's a little silly to make judgements about the state of the game based off of an old build.. especially when these guys have been crunching every day to work on this game. I'm positive that the worst (clipping) of it will be addressed quickly. Again, Caspien Border does not have this issue. It has a different, less serious flickering texture issue, but I'm not particularly worried.

Oh, and the disconnected from server + losing all your points? Yeah.. that's kind of a big deal. I've had a lot of luck when I find a stable server (which also seemingly affects clipping) and just stay there for as long as I can :D

Definitely won't say it's not terribly glitchy in this state.. and it's totally understandable if some would like to wait to see when and how that's all sorted out. I'm just thrilled with what does work, and I'm willing to be patient.. and I expect the retail release to be much better.

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[quote=Tomarru]Well, battlelog is right up to date and it's a mess and very much integral to how you play the game. Having an outside game browser was a disasterous idea.[/quote]

Why? It's faster to navigate than BC2 or BF2, and quicker to return to from game than BC2 by a large margin.

[quote=KORNdog]

sadly, probably not "old ass" enough to fix everything. i've heard it's 3-4 weeks old yet it has bugs of an alpha. i dont have much faith it'll be sorted for launch. which is a shame, since the game plays well.[/quote]

True.. I don't expect the launch to be anything short of chaotic. I just think that it's a little silly to make judgements about the state of the game based off of an old build.. especially when these guys have been crunching every day to work on this game. I'm positive that the worst (clipping) of it will be addressed quickly. Again, Caspien Border [i]does not[/i] have this issue. It has a different, less serious flickering texture issue, but I'm not particularly worried.

Oh, and the disconnected from server + losing all your points? Yeah.. that's kind of a big deal. I've had a lot of luck when I find a stable server (which also seemingly affects clipping) and just stay there for as long as I can :D

Definitely won't say it's not terribly glitchy in this state.. and it's totally understandable if some would like to wait to see when and how that's all sorted out. I'm just thrilled with what does work, and I'm willing to be patient.. [i]and[/i] I expect the retail release to be much better.

Frozpot

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I'm happy I can max out this game and still have good performance, but I am a bit disappointed with Metro- BC2's rush maps were much better. That being said, I didn't think I was going to like prone so much (very well done, and "natural" feeling) and I realize I may have a more negative view because I die so much ATM. Gotta remember people have had more time with it than I have. Is there a good alternative to traditional M/K (not gamepad, obviously)? Mouse is fine, but I despise using the keyboard for movement...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

GriftGFX

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Posté par Frozpot

BC2's rush maps were much better.

Insanity.

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Is there a good alternative to traditional M/K (not gamepad, obviously)? Mouse is fine, but I despise using the keyboard for movement...

Yes, but they're all keypads. You need to learn the keyboard for movement if you want to play PC FPS.

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Frozpot

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Posté par GriftGFX

Insanity.

IMO. I haven't played Caspian (looks great), but Metro is just ok for me. It's large, but has no vehicles, no weapon emplacements. It doesn't feel nearly as dynamic or fun as some BC2 Rush maps (which were bigger too). The placement of some of the M-COM stations is just crap. It's all subject to change, though, and I'm dying to try Caspian Border.
The movement is awesome, but deploying the bi-pod seems a bit inconsistent. I am putting in effort to adjusting to the keyboard, but it's just not the same. If it weren't for the mouse aim, I'd much prefer a pad (played on the 360, and it is so much more intuitive, IMO.). I can do it, it's just slower still...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

Phaethon360

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I don't think the performance I'm getting has anything to do with it being a beta. I hope, but I doubt it. I'm willing to work with Battlelog's interface. I actually don't mind it. But, at the very LEAST it should be within Origin so I don't have to keep FF open for nothing. But that's not what they want. They want to have a web property rivaling Zynga and Facebook, with BF3 being its Trojan horse. But I need a simple way to change my graphics settings and test them, and since I have to be in a game...

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Frozpot

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Getting used to it, having much more fun. I managed a 17/12 k/d. Metro is growing on me like a virus :) Beautiful game- very glad I got the PC version!

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

crookedmind

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Posté par ManThatYouFear

I is beta, what do people expect?

Please dont tell me the people on this site are like GT and co and think that BETAS are ..you know.. actual demos.

Dude, it's 25 days until launch. It's a 10(12) day demo. Calling a demo a beta to use it as an excuse to be unoptimized is fucking weak.

I find that those who know this, know what an actual BETA is and don't suffer from console-fatigue.

On another note, the only people who think the bugs are blown out of proportion are those not experiencing what 50%+ of the game base is. It's easy to be biased when there are different levels of experience. But if they would just look at it objectively, and collectively, they'd realize that it's as bad as a real Alpha.

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GriftGFX

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It's not though. Legitimate test or not, this is not the retail build. Will it be "fixed?" Some of the bugs are bound to have already been fixed. Others will stick around for weeks or months after launch. The most severe will be dealt with quickly. I'm pretty confident.. Bad Company 2's "beta" had a ton of issues and it performs extreme well in its current version. Hell, after today's server reboot, Metro has mostly been behaving quite well here. Forget about "fixing" the beta--this isn't even the most recent version of the game anyway. Lets wait and see the trainwreck of a launch and then cry!

Sheesh.

The launch might be rough.. but the game is great. It's not like Homefront, where the beta was buggy and horrid and so was the release. At least we dropped the horrid part. It's the best online FPS in ages.

My biggest complaint is that eSports will probably fall flat. That's more a design issue than a bug though.. and I still have some guarded optimism anyway.

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