Halo Reach

szaromir

Since 6763 Days

http://www.bungie.net/images/games/reach/audio/Lon...

You can simply grab the music here.:)

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Posted by szaromir

http://www.bungie.net/images/games/reach/audio/Lone%20Wolf.mp3

You can simply grab the music here.:)

Nope, that's just the music from the trailer :P

The part I'm talking about is something entirely different. They played at the part I mentioned in the podcast. Clearly from Reach and wasn't heard in the reveal trailer.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

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blmbox

Since 6337 Days

I hope you're not referring to that electric guitar shit? Because that was awful...

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Posted by blmbox

I hope you're not referring to that electric guitar shit? Because that was awful...

No, I don't believe it was. The music can never be judged in isolation, it goes with some scene or event in the game.

There are elements in that piece of music that are incredible and convey a very good idea of what the general mood of this game will be like, and I like it.

It sounds extremely badass. Are you just focuing on the guitars? Even if you are, there's no way it's terrible. It's highly impressive and will probably go with some awesome part of the game showing off the Spartans in action, or maybe it will be at some later insane moment in the game's story, when you are dealing with Covenant.

I can't wait to see what part of the game it goes with. But marty is doing a great job of trying to find something iconic and appropriate for Reach in the same way that he did for the Halo series in general with the many different versions of the tune everybody is familiar with.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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Ronsauce

Since 6991 Days

The guitar part was awesome. One thing Halo 3 lacked was some kick ass rockin' music during parts. I hope the game is filled with bombastic, orchestral metal.

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Yea, it sounds really badass in my view.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 5893 Days

Posted by szaromir

http://www.bungie.net/images/games/reach/audio/Lone%20Wolf.mp3

You can simply grab the music here.:)

Awesome!!!

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Viginti_Tres

Since 6508 Days

Posted by Ronsauce

I hope the game is filled with bombastic, orchestral metal.

I can get behind that. But please, metal??? The music in ODST was outstanding and Marty was always able to one-up on his previous efforts, except for Halo 2. Imo, the music in Halo 2 was a big accident, it lacked in tension and suspense... just like the whole game.

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Ronsauce

Since 6991 Days

Posted by Viginti_Tres

But please, metal???

I don't mean just...metal... I just like the orchestral stuff to be accented by heavy fucking guitars...the kind found in metal. Not all the time mind you...but during huge battles and what not.

I can't comment on ODST as I've yet to play it.

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szaromir

Since 6763 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Nope, that's just the music from the trailer :P

The part I'm talking about is something entirely different. They played at the part I mentioned in the podcast. Clearly from Reach and wasn't heard in the reveal trailer.

Ah, thanks, I didn't know that. Now that I listened to it, the trailer was apparently heavily modified version of opening cutscene. I hope they'll change the dialogues for the final game, because while it gives us a ton of information and hints, it's also extremely corny ("I read you files, even the parts ONI didn't want me to". REALLY?). Although, the sniper's line is cool :)

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dcdelgado

Since 6866 Days

I agree.

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Huh, I don't get that Szaromir, that dialogue is no different from the material we get from Spartans in the books.

The Spartans absolutely do speak like that, they don't always talk as little as the Chief or in a fashion that is similar to the way he has been known to do in the games. The Spartans, as far as dialogue is concerned, have been known to engage in teasing, sarcasm, and other forms of casual conversation.

Carter saying what he did "even the parts ONI didn't want me to" is very eye brow raising, however. Exactly what type of access must this guy have to have seen records that even ONI wanted to keep secret from him? Did he have help from Halsey? Did Cortana get involved? Is he just that skilled with regards to hacking and managed to get in there himself -- or is his rank simply that high up in the chain of command?.

Something is highly, and I do mean highly, suspicious about that Carter guy. If this cutscene is as heavily modified as Bungie makes it seem, I wonder if there's a chance that the Carter name is a complete fabrication and he's, in fact, Kurt-051, the member of Blue Team that was kidnapped in order to head up the Spartan III's training. Even the line "Spartans Never Die, they're just Missing in Action" is highly suspicious. Kurt lives and dies by those words.

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Huh, I don't get that Szaromir, that dialogue is no different from the material we get from Spartans in the books.

The Spartans absolutely do speak like that, they don't always talk as little as the Chief or in a fashion that is similar to the way he has been known to do in the games. The Spartans, as far as dialogue is concerned, have been known to engage in teasing, sarcasm, and other forms of casual conversation.

Carter saying what he did "even the parts ONI didn't want me to" is very eye brow raising, however. Exactly what type of access must this guy have to have seen records that even ONI wanted to keep secret from him? Did he have help from Halsey? Did Cortana get involved? Is he just that skilled with regards to hacking and managed to get in there himself -- or is his rank simply that high up in the chain of command?.

Something is highly, and I do mean highly, suspicious about that Carter guy. If this cutscene is as heavily modified as Bungie makes it seem, I wonder if there's a chance that the Carter name is a complete fabrication and he's, in fact, Kurt-051, the member of Blue Team that was kidnapped in order to head up the Spartan III's training. Even the line "Spartans Never Die, they're just Missing in Action" is highly suspicious. Kurt lives and dies by those words.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

It just hit me, Colonol Ackerson seemed to have been interested in using Tom for his own private operations not too long after Operation Torpedo, but surely around the time of the events of Reach.

And what the hell... Carter is a Commander and Lone Wolf is a Lieutenant. Something doesn't seem right.

To even have such ranks, they'd have to be legit officers and not ones who were simply enlisted like Master Chief and the others.

So, for some strange reasons, they were made outright officers in the UNSC, sorta like Kurt was once he was kidnapped and made a major controlling part of the Spartan III Program. It's highly interesting how in god's name Carter is a Commander.

The fact that Lone Wolf is a Lieutenant is possibly also a very big warning flag that it may be Tom, or perhaps Ackerson managed to get his way and conceal the existence of a third survivor on Pegasi.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

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Acert93

Since 6977 Days

Posted by deftangel

DC beat me to it lol :)

Again before we go mad though, cutscenes produced in engine will look better than gameplay produced in engine. However, it's great to see that AA is definitely going to be better.

i.e. They will have some sort of AA... period? Because, you know, Halo 3 didn't have any MSAA, edge filtering, DOF, or object motion blur at all?

Anyhow, I called it dead on. Engine based rendering with game assets at crazy resolutions (ala what Epic does). So everyone who was disagreeing with me and saying they thought console games this gen could do this IQ... yeah, you can eat my hat!

What is surprising is all the posts after the Bungie clarification that indicate Bungie is supporting their outlandish views on the graphics... I guess this is why this isn't B3D!

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Haha, my point still stands that there are games currently released that look downright amazing, and appear every bit as clean as that Reach cutscene not just during cutscenes, but even during gameplay. Maybe they are pulling some type of trick to makes me believe the image quality is better than what I'm seeing, but Batman Arkham Asylum and Star Wars : Force Unleashed look positively stunning, and are some of the cleanest looking games I've seen this gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kve3qNpW1Tc

5:24 in he calls in the bat plane, it looks stunning and all real-time.

I probably don't need to show you the many mindblowing cutscenes in Arkham Asylum that are every bit as impressive as that Reach Cutscene, like Poison Ivy's defeat or Joker's Party cutscene and numerous others. Hell, there are a great number of actual gameplay moments that look positively stunning while being completely real-time. If Batman can have cutscenes like that, I don't see why it would be impossible for Reach.

We know that actual gameplay won't look quite as stunning as the cutscene, but perhaps, like Arkham Asylum, they can come close enough and still blow minds during actual gameplay as well. There are some truly nuts cutscenes and real-time gameplay levels in Force Unleashed as well. That level where you fight Shaak Ti, I believe, is just mindblowing... :o

I would post some of Force Unleashed's non-cg cutscenes as well, but I'm sure a few on here have played that game and have seen what I'm talking about. Maybe their cutscenes using in-game assets in video form, like this Reach scene but hey, one can't argue with the sheer impressiveness of Arkham Asylum and Force Unleashed's cutscenes. I don't see why Reach can't do the same :)

They should go ahead and do the same thing that a number of other 360 titles are doing, even go 2 discs if they have to.

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Haha, my point still stands that there are games currently released that look downright amazing, and appear every bit as clean as that Reach cutscene not just during cutscenes, but even during gameplay. Maybe they are pulling some type of trick to makes me believe the image quality is better than what I'm seeing, but Batman Arkham Asylum and Star Wars : Force Unleashed look positively stunning, and are some of the cleanest looking games I've seen this gen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kve3qNpW1Tc
 
5:24 in he calls in the bat plane, it looks stunning and all real-time.

I probably don't need to show you the many mindblowing cutscenes in Arkham Asylum that are every bit as impressive as that Reach Cutscene, like Poison Ivy's defeat or Joker's Party cutscene and numerous others. Hell, there are a great number of actual gameplay moments that look positively stunning while being completely real-time. If Batman can have cutscenes like that, I don't see why it would be impossible for Reach.

We know that actual gameplay won't look quite as stunning as the cutscene, but perhaps, like Arkham Asylum, they can come close enough and still blow minds during actual gameplay as well. There are some truly nuts cutscenes and real-time gameplay levels in Force Unleashed as well. That level where you fight Shaak Ti, I believe, is just mindblowing... :o

I would post some of Force Unleashed's non-cg cutscenes as well, but I'm sure a few on here have played that game and have seen what I'm talking about. Maybe their cutscenes using in-game assets in video form, like this Reach scene but hey, one can't argue with the sheer impressiveness of Arkham Asylum and Force Unleashed's cutscenes. I don't see why Reach can't do the same :)

They should go ahead and do the same thing that a number of other 360 titles are doing, even go 2 discs if they have to.

Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

GriftGFX

Since 7006 Days

Every bit as impressive sans-image quality.

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Ultimately, I'd just be satisfied with those much improved character models and animations. If they can't make it look as good as that, I'm cool with it, just don't give me weird looking character models and animations that have no business being in a game of this magnitude :)

I want something that looks damn good too and isn't as hard on the eyes jaggie wise as Halo 3. One of the jaggiest big budget games this gen. Even Blue Dragon many times looked as if was running 4x AA with quite a bit of AF.

Some of those level designs were crazy :o

Anyway, enough of that, I want to see some truly awesome combat scenes in this game, and I want them to really show off the Spartan's HUD.

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

BLackHawkodst

Since 5893 Days

I think they will get pretty close come release, and for sure everything will be vastly improved over Halo3.

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Optimusv2

Since 6898 Days

Yea, I think it's safe to assume it'll crush Halo 3. It damn well better! :)

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Hironobu Sakaguchi is coming back to reclaim the throne :)

Seeing it in motion on your HDTV, will blow your mind!!

Don't ask any questions just shut up and buy Halo : Ghosts of the Onyx one of the greatest books ever.

pssh! more like electronic g

Tinks

Since 6936 Days

Posted by Ronsauce

Are you the reason all of us have to hear that guitar shred when you level up in MW2? :p

I don't expect Reach to look all that more impressive than Halo 3. Had they titled it "Halo 4" I'd agree with everyone. Hate to be the negative one here.

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szaromir

Since 6763 Days

I downloaded some of the videos from delgado's link from last page to have a direct comparison between cutscenes without swapping discs in my Xbox. You can definitely tell that Halo 3's cutscenes are by far the worst. Terrible dialogues ("-Commander, squad leaders are requesting rally points. Where should they go? - To war.") and terrible direction. What the fuck happened at Bungie at that time? Also ODST cutscenes look aesthetically a lot better even though the technoology is almost unchanged.
Still, Halo 3 had a lovely campaign and overall better than ODST's. Too bad that instead of epic ending to the trilogy we got such a messy story.

Huh, I don't get that Szaromir, that dialogue is no different from the material we get from Spartans in the books.

The Spartans absolutely do speak like that, they don't always talk as little as the Chief or in a fashion that is similar to the way he has been known to do in the games. The Spartans, as far as dialogue is concerned, have been known to engage in teasing, sarcasm, and other forms of casual conversation.

They still deliver only one-liners like MC did in the trilogy. It was Rookie who was always silent(IMO in one situation it was even inappropriate that he was silent, as if he was mute). But it's not about that they have conversations, but that they all sound so corny. In my personal life, I don't say "even the parts they didn't want me to" unless I don't want to show off and that's why it sounds bad to me in the trailer (he could also say that to threaten the lone wolf guy, but that seems unlikely given the next sentence). The conversation in the barrack sounds very unnatural as well.

As I said though, the sniper guy is really cool, both his voice and his line. :D

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I downloaded some of the videos from delgado's link from last page to have a direct comparison between cutscenes without swapping discs in my Xbox. You can definitely tell that Halo 3's cutscenes are by far the worst. Terrible dialogues ("-Commander, squad leaders are requesting rally points. Where should they go? - To war.") and terrible direction. What the fuck happened at Bungie at that time? Also ODST cutscenes look aesthetically a lot better even though the technoology is almost unchanged.
Still, Halo 3 had a lovely campaign and overall better than ODST's. Too bad that instead of epic ending to the trilogy we got such a messy story.
[quote] Huh, I don't get that Szaromir, that dialogue is no different from the material we get from Spartans in the books.

The Spartans absolutely do speak like that, they don't always talk as little as the Chief or in a fashion that is similar to the way he has been known to do in the games. The Spartans, as far as dialogue is concerned, have been known to engage in teasing, sarcasm, and other forms of casual conversation.[/quote]
They still deliver only one-liners like MC did in the trilogy. It was Rookie who was always silent(IMO in one situation it was even inappropriate that he was silent, as if he was mute). But it's not about that they have conversations, but that they all sound so corny. In my personal life, I don't say "even the parts they didn't want me to" unless I don't want to show off and that's why it sounds bad to me in the trailer (he could also say that to threaten the lone wolf guy, but that seems unlikely given the next sentence). The conversation in the barrack sounds very unnatural as well.

As I said though, the sniper guy is really cool, both his voice and his line. :D

"That just happened 'cause that was awesome" - Randy Pitchford, Gearbox

TheFuriousOne

Since 7005 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Nope, that's just the music from the trailer :P

The part I'm talking about is something entirely different. They played at the part I mentioned in the podcast. Clearly from Reach and wasn't heard in the reveal trailer.

Posted by blmbox

I hope you're not referring to that electric guitar shit? Because that was awful...

The track played around the 2 - 3minute mark is from Halo ODST, I this is from the track called Skyline on the soundtrack. There are some amazing pieces of work from Martin O'Donnell so it's well worth getting the soundtrack.

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dcdelgado

Since 6866 Days

Posted by Optimusv2

Yea, I think it's safe to assume it'll crush Halo 3. It damn well better! :)

It will destroy it!!

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blmbox

Since 6337 Days

Still a year from release, knowing that graphics have been given more attention in this new engine... I'm pretty confident Reach will look fantastic come release.

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BLackHawkodst

Since 5893 Days

Posted by blmbox

Still a year from release, knowing that graphics have been given more attention in this new engine... I'm pretty confident Reach will look fantastic come release.

Yep pretty much.

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