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Damn, I hate my XBL name, but not gonna throw 10 buck away for a name change. At least for now. ;)

I didn't play MW2 for months, almost sold it (dunno why I didn't really). But sure it'd be fun to play with you guys, just for the laughs.

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We played some other shooters today. After a lot of MW2, it is really hard to go back to a 30Hz game. MW is smooth, movements are clean and snappy, and animations are also fairly high. It is really hard going back to the other games :(

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Posté par Acert93

We played some other shooters today. After a lot of MW2, it is really hard to go back to a 30Hz game. MW is smooth, movements are clean and snappy, and animations are also fairly high. It is really hard going back to the other games :(

It gets easier once you realize that they're better games. It is jarring. It was hard for me to adjust to playing BC2 after playing so much COD4 at 125fps.. but it was worth it.

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You'd think after all these months, you'd get tired of ragging on a game you haven't played.

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I also find it very hard to switch from 60fps to 30 fps. I first realized how choppy Halo 3 ran once I put it back in after a long CoD4 session, couldn't even do the most simple things, let alone kill anyone. It's amazing how the brain can cope with these shortcomings, though.

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Posté par Ronsauce

You'd think after all these months, you'd get tired of ragging on a game you haven't played.

Framerate has nothing to do with how good a game is, either!

That is probably the #1 reason to play PC games, though, because it isn't even an issue to consider (which makes introducing PC gamers into console gaming dialogue uneven anyhow). But the cost of maintaining a PC that can play games at reasonable visuals and high framerates isn't cheap. I had built a PC in 2004 (6800GT overclocked) and MW1 kicked its rear at 800x600 with almost everything on low. BUT at least you have the option.

In console ville, everything is given one option, determined by the developer. Which is nice in that the playing field is level, but not so nice for those of us who really like a well designed game that is responsive and visually clean in terms of framerate.

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Posté par Ronsauce

You'd think after all these months, you'd get tired of ragging on a game you haven't played.

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Framerate has nothing to do with how good a game is, either!

That is probably the #1 reason to play PC games, though, because it isn't even an issue to consider (which makes introducing PC gamers into console gaming dialogue uneven anyhow). But the cost of maintaining a PC that can play games at reasonable visuals and high framerates isn't cheap. I had built a PC in 2004 (6800GT overclocked) and MW1 kicked its rear at 800x600 with almost everything on low. BUT at least you have the option.

In console ville, everything is given one option, determined by the developer. Which is nice in that the playing field is level, but not so nice for those of us who really like a well designed game that is responsive and visually clean in terms of framerate.

I agree that frame rate improves a game, but it's not everything, or even the most important thing. I chose to play Call of Duty 4 on a 6800GT (stock) too, and I did so knowing full well that the performance would be awful. I wasn't running promod locked @ 125fps until I upgraded several months after the launch. To me, things like mods and vastly superior controls are enough to get me to play a game on the PC, even if I think the 360 might win in terms of image quality and frame rate. I'm just saying that there are plenty of reasons to play games like Halo 3 and Bad Company 2 despite their performance. If I were going to opt to play console games, I'd probably still be stuck on Halo 3, because I think it's a better game (than BC2 too).

It can certainly be the feature that tips the scales, and I'll take as many frames as I can get my hands on!

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[quote=Ronsauce]You'd think after all these months, you'd get tired of ragging on a game you haven't played.[/quote]

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Framerate has nothing to do with how good a game is, either!

That is probably the #1 reason to play PC games, though, because it isn't even an issue to consider (which makes introducing PC gamers into console gaming dialogue uneven anyhow). But the cost of maintaining a PC that can play games at reasonable visuals and high framerates isn't cheap. I had built a PC in 2004 (6800GT overclocked) and MW1 kicked its rear at 800x600 with almost everything on low. BUT at least you have the option.

In console ville, everything is given one option, determined by the developer. Which is nice in that the playing field is level, but not so nice for those of us who really like a well designed game that is responsive and visually clean in terms of framerate.[/quote]

I agree that frame rate improves a game, but it's not everything, or even the most important thing. I chose to play Call of Duty 4 on a 6800GT (stock) too, and I did so knowing full well that the performance would be awful. I wasn't running promod locked @ 125fps until I upgraded several months after the launch. To me, things like mods and [i]vastly[/i] superior controls are enough to get me to play a game on the PC, even if I think the 360 might win in terms of image quality and frame rate. I'm just saying that there are plenty of reasons to play games like Halo 3 and Bad Company 2 despite their performance. If I were going to opt to play console games, I'd probably still be stuck on Halo 3, because I think it's a better game (than BC2 too).

It can certainly be the feature that tips the scales, and I'll take as many frames as I can get my hands on!

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The two Ex-IW bosses fired by Activision recently formed a new company that signed an exclusive publishing contract with.... EA. Oh, and the new company is ironically named Respawn Entertainment.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ct...

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Posté par GriftGFX

Whoa, when did this happen? Did someone gift it to you over Steam or something?

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Nevermind...forgot about the free MW2 weekend.

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Nevermind...forgot about the free MW2 weekend.

Yeah, and I'm happy they did this promo. It gave me a chance to play the game for several hours (about seven and a half), which more or less validated a lot of my expectations. The fundamentals that made Call of Duty great are still there under the surface, which is something I've never denied, but unfortunately it's not the focus of the game's design. It feels like they took the things that I'm most critical of in Call of Duty 4 (and Bad Company!) and put them under a microscope. I still think the perks and custom kill streak rewards are pretty ridiculous. The emergency air drop actually shocked me! That's far more ridiculous than the nuke! Is there even a cap on simultaneous air support? Oh, and I think the cash money that flies out of your dying corpse is horrifically bad, but also very funny. To me that says a lot about the target audience for this game. They're ballin' yo!

Within five minutes of starting the game up, match making stuck me in a glitched room where I got a billion experience points for a single kill, boosting me to level 70. That was actually a treat, since it allowed me to check out more of the game. I got to try my hand at some of the more ridiculous configurations (like marathon/lightweight/commando pro) without having to put an excessive amount of time into the game.

There were other technical issues too, which I actually consider the bigger fault. There were a fair amount of laggy games, host migration, etc, and the game punishes you for leaving games that are unplayable. The lack of dedicated servers and mods are still what ultimately killed this game for me. I'm not a big fan of many of the design choices, but I still think it's more of a shame that we can't adapt the great gameplay that lays beneath all of that for competition. Oh, and the ground war playlist was broken for me. I could only play it with friends who started the game, or else it would throw me into the same glitched game of Rust over and over again. Rust is a garbage map, but I liked some of the other levels!

FWIW, I found the SMG's a little less effective than they are in Call of Duty 4, but holy crap are some of the rifles good. That ACR is a beastly gun! And you can carry a PP2000 instead of an actual pistol? When you consider how badly they've nerfed the deagle (it blows in this game), I'm not sure why anyone would opt to carry anything but a machine pistol (and the PP2000 borders on SMG).

It was fun, but it definitely didn't make me want to buy it. It did make me want to reinstall COD4.

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The two Ex-IW bosses fired by Activision recently formed a new company that signed an exclusive publishing contract with.... EA. Oh, and the new company is ironically named Respawn Entertainment.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ct...

That's potentially great news. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they come up with! Activision is using this to try to "prove" that these guys were conspiring against them. Oh, how they must have hurt Activision by delivering one of the most successful games of all time. I bet they're just upset that they haven't figured out a way to monetize FPS in the same fashion that they have with MMORPG's and music games.

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[quote=Ronsauce]Nevermind...forgot about the free MW2 weekend.[/quote]

Yeah, and I'm happy they did this promo. It gave me a chance to play the game for several hours (about seven and a half), which more or less validated a lot of my expectations. The fundamentals that made Call of Duty great are still there under the surface, which is something I've never denied, but unfortunately it's not the focus of the game's design. It feels like they took the things that I'm most critical of in Call of Duty 4 (and Bad Company!) and put them under a microscope. I still think the perks and custom kill streak rewards are pretty ridiculous. The emergency air drop actually shocked me! That's far more ridiculous than the nuke! Is there even a cap on simultaneous air support? Oh, and I think the cash money that flies out of your dying corpse is horrifically bad, but also very funny. To me that says a lot about the target audience for this game. They're ballin' yo!

Within five minutes of starting the game up, match making stuck me in a glitched room where I got a billion experience points for a single kill, boosting me to level 70. That was actually a treat, since it allowed me to check out more of the game. I got to try my hand at some of the more ridiculous configurations (like marathon/lightweight/commando pro) without having to put an excessive amount of time into the game.

There were other technical issues too, which I actually consider the [i]bigger[/i] fault. There were a fair amount of laggy games, host migration, etc, and the game punishes you for leaving games that are unplayable. The lack of dedicated servers [i]and mods[/i] are still what ultimately killed this game for me. I'm not a big fan of many of the design choices, but I still think it's more of a shame that we can't adapt the great gameplay that lays beneath all of that for competition. Oh, and the ground war playlist was broken for me. I could only play it with friends who started the game, or else it would throw me into the same glitched game of Rust over and over again. Rust is a garbage map, but I liked some of the other levels!

FWIW, I found the SMG's a little less effective than they are in Call of Duty 4, but holy crap are some of the rifles good. That ACR is a beastly gun! And you can carry a PP2000 instead of an actual pistol? When you consider how badly they've nerfed the deagle (it blows in this game), I'm not sure why anyone would opt to carry anything but a machine pistol (and the PP2000 borders on SMG).

It was fun, but it definitely didn't make me want to buy it. It did make me want to reinstall COD4.

[quote=Viginti_Tres]The two Ex-IW bosses fired by Activision recently formed a new company that signed an exclusive publishing contract with.... EA. Oh, and the new company is ironically named Respawn Entertainment.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-ct-callofduty12-2010apr12,0,6466384.story[/quote]

That's potentially great news. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they come up with! Activision is using this to try to "prove" that these guys were conspiring against them. Oh, how they must have hurt Activision by delivering one of the most successful games of all time. I bet they're just upset that they haven't figured out a way to monetize FPS in the same fashion that they have with MMORPG's and music games.

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I think the money that flies out is only for "Payback" kills....just a visual cue that you killed whoever killed you last.

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Posté par Ronsauce

I think the money that flies out is only for "Payback" kills....just a visual cue that you killed whoever killed you last.

Really? It seemed like it was happening every time I died.. but whatever.. only posting impressions since I finally got to try it. It's not like you guys expected me to like it, or like I expect you to dislike it.

Whatever entertains, that's the point, right?

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I actually don't mind the "payback". It's fun, and it's not like the game is realistic anyway...

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Oooh, Profound, isn't it?

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Posté par GriftGFX

Really? It seemed like it was happening every time I died..

You must kill people a lot. They eventually get you. Bam. Payback.

I was tooling around in splitscreen the other day, just blasting a couple of inert controllers, and I think it actually improved my aim. Also, burst rifles own. :)

And Acert is right. +arrier inbound? uh oh. OMA over to my coldblooded scavenger stinger class. BAM! +300. Thank you very much.

It amazes me how people manage to get their asses slaughtered by the air support so often. I only get killed where its unavoidable or if I forget i'm not on a cold blooded class.

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Well, I'm done with MW2. I'm done with Call of Duty altogher too I think.

I've gotten tired of all the bullshit that happens MW2. Deaths that are completely unavailable, air support raining down nearly constantly (it seems), noob tubes, stupid teammates, no good indicator of when the game is going to end (lost many EXP from un-called-in support because the game ended earlier than I was expecting), rifles that absolutely dominate everything else, LMGs that are more like rilfes being the only LMG in use, fucking quickscopers running around using snipers like shotguns, shitty spawning and shitty maps trapping you out in the open with chopper gunners flying around or continually spawning you in one corner of the map with the enemies surrounding you when the other half of the map is completely vacant, it never feeling like you've done well unless you go 20-10 or more. Ridiculous challenges and campers galore and shots not registering and me dying and whats on the kill-cam not matching up with what I saw and and bloody tactical knifing cammandoers and .... GAH!

So, I went back to CoD4 for a few hours. Mostly kicked arse. Kicked some MAJOR arse at times. Remembered how fun it was. Remembered how good the guns felt! How actually aiming and firing at an opponent would kill them and they couldn't just charge at you from across the room and get the kill with their knife, how you actually had to temper your fire a bit to compensate for recoil, how your bullets actually registered and not every fight was come across a guy round a corner, fire and it was a toss up whether your bullets would even connect. How flanking and aggressive charges into the back of their lines are rewarded, not punished with a spawn switch because the maps are so damn huge you can't even get around their back side....

Remembered some of the old problems the game had: choppers nearly indestructable, still have dumb teammates, many maps dominated by snipers and not in a fun way.

I quit that CoD4 too. After I go massively positive every game for a streak of 10ish, only winning 1 or two on the way, often with most if not all of the rest of my team negative, I end in a game where I go 32-9, and my team still loses by a single kill (600-610)... ugh. Which, thinking about it, means I made over half the kills for my team, and barely conceeded my fair share of the points to the other team.

Its just, not fun feeling no matter how well you do, its not going to matter, you're still going to lose because your team are utter retards and can't stay in a safe place for the last 15 seconds of the game. I mean, I don't really care about winning that much, but I like to feel that my play at least matters to the outcome of the game. I was just laughing, I couldn't believe it, it was ridiculous, I was doing better and better every match, and its absurd that in a DEATHMATCH game, I still lose with that score. No one on my team managed to even break even. And after all that, because I did so well, next match, I'm put on the shitty team again (who could be even worse than the chumps I just was with). Doomed to a cycle of losses.

So, yeah. Fuck this game. Fuck Infinity Ward.

Is the other half by Treyarch any good? If so, which one would you guys reccomend?

Should I just go out and buy Battlefield for the summer? Is it worth it? £24.99 on play atm.

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Well, I'm done with MW2. I'm done with Call of Duty altogher too I think.

I've gotten tired of all the bullshit that happens MW2. Deaths that are completely unavailable, air support raining down nearly constantly (it seems), noob tubes, stupid teammates, no good indicator of when the game is going to end (lost many EXP from un-called-in support because the game ended earlier than I was expecting), rifles that absolutely dominate everything else, LMGs that are more like rilfes being the only LMG in use, fucking quickscopers running around using snipers like shotguns, shitty spawning and shitty maps trapping you out in the open with chopper gunners flying around or continually spawning you in one corner of the map with the enemies surrounding you when the other half of the map is completely vacant, it never feeling like you've done well unless you go 20-10 or more. Ridiculous challenges and campers galore and shots not registering and me dying and whats on the kill-cam not matching up with what I saw and and bloody tactical knifing cammandoers and .... GAH!

So, I went back to CoD4 for a few hours. Mostly kicked arse. Kicked some MAJOR arse at times. Remembered how fun it was. Remembered how good the guns felt! How actually aiming and firing at an opponent would kill them and they couldn't just charge at you from across the room and get the kill with their knife, how you actually had to temper your fire a bit to compensate for recoil, how your bullets actually [i]registered[/i] and not every fight was come across a guy round a corner, fire and it was a toss up whether your bullets would even connect. How flanking and aggressive charges into the back of their lines are rewarded, not punished with a spawn switch because the maps are so damn huge you can't even get around their back side....

Remembered some of the old problems the game had: choppers nearly indestructable, still have dumb teammates, many maps dominated by snipers and not in a fun way.

I quit that CoD4 too. After I go massively positive every game for a streak of 10ish, only winning 1 or two on the way, often with most if not all of the rest of my team negative, I end in a game where I go 32-9, and my team still loses by a single kill (600-610)... ugh. Which, thinking about it, means I made over half the kills for my team, and barely conceeded my fair share of the points to the other team.

Its just, [b]not fun[/b] feeling no matter how well you do, its not going to matter, you're still going to lose because your team are utter retards and can't stay in a safe place for the last 15 seconds of the game. I mean, I don't really care about winning that much, but I like to feel that my play at least [i]matters[/i] to the outcome of the game. I was just laughing, I couldn't believe it, it was ridiculous, I was doing better and better every match, and its absurd that in a DEATHMATCH game, I still lose with that score. No one on my team managed to even break even. And after all that, because I did so well, next match, I'm put on the shitty team again (who could be even worse than the chumps I just was with). Doomed to a cycle of losses.

So, yeah. Fuck this game. Fuck Infinity Ward.

Is the other half by Treyarch any good? If so, which one would you guys reccomend?

Should I just go out and buy Battlefield for the summer? Is it worth it? £24.99 on play atm.

Ignorance is the true enemy of all things.

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Posté par RC_Master

Is the other half by Treyarch any good? If so, which one would you guys reccomend?

World at War was Treyarch's best game by far, but it's not as good as COD4 by a long shot. It's no secret that I think MW2 is vastly inferior to that game too; it's the last great Call of Duty.

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Should I just go out and buy Battlefield for the summer? Is it worth it? £24.99 on play atm.

Yes. Just don't expect the same kind of game. Call of Duty does infantry gameplay better, in my opinion, than Battlefield ever has. Battlefield more than makes up for this in the variety of gameplay that it delivers. There's just so much more to do than most other shooters. The classes are well defined and if you play with friends you can use them to create a squad that has a real impact on a large game. Even if you play BC2 solo though, it can still be a lot of fun, but just be warned that it does get a little more frustrating that way. If you need to buy another war shooter this year, I'd say Bad Company 2 is probably your game.

I'm enjoying the deathmatch mode in the Medal of Honor beta, but it's a bit of a mess, and the game lacks any real identity. It's Call of Duty lite, stuck somewhere in between these two franchises.

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[quote=RC_Master]Is the other half by Treyarch any good? If so, which one would you guys reccomend?[/quote]

World at War was Treyarch's best game by far, but it's not as good as COD4 by a long shot. It's no secret that I think MW2 is vastly inferior to that game too; it's the last great Call of Duty.

[quote=RC_Master]Should I just go out and buy Battlefield for the summer? Is it worth it? £24.99 on play atm.[/quote]

Yes. Just don't expect the same kind of game. Call of Duty does infantry gameplay better, in my opinion, than Battlefield ever has. Battlefield more than makes up for this in the variety of gameplay that it delivers. There's just so much more to do than most other shooters. The classes are well defined and if you play with friends you can use them to create a squad that has a real impact on a large game. Even if you play BC2 solo though, it can still be a lot of fun, but just be warned that it does get a little more frustrating that way. If you need to buy another war shooter this year, I'd say Bad Company 2 is probably your game.

I'm enjoying the deathmatch mode in the Medal of Honor beta, but it's a bit of a mess, and the game lacks any real identity. It's Call of Duty lite, stuck somewhere in between these two franchises.

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Posté par RC_Master

I've gotten tired of all the bullshit that happens MW2. .... GAH!.

Someone call the wahmbulance!

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Posté par Ronsauce

Someone call the wahmbulance!

Shocking reply. :/

It's been so long since this thread was bumped that I had almost forgotten that people weren't allowed to dislike anything about MW2 without being criticized themselves.

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Posté par GriftGFX

Shocking reply. :/

It's been so long since this thread was bumped that I had almost forgotten that people weren't allowed to dislike anything about MW2 without being criticized themselves.

What isn't a surprise is people who don't play are still complaining and that there are those who dislike the game and continue to play/complain (masochists?)

Interestingly MW2 still tops MW1, Halo 3, ODST, Gears 1/2, etc on my friends list. What is the most popular Live game per MS these days?

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Because the more casual gamers love mw2 and don't mind that 1/2 the people are running around knifing the entire time and using other BS perks. Hate this game. BC2 4 life yo!

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Posté par Acert93

What isn't a surprise is people who don't play are still complaining and that there are those who dislike the game and continue to play/complain (masochists?)

Interestingly MW2 still tops MW1, Halo 3, ODST, Gears 1/2, etc on my friends list. What is the most popular Live game per MS these days?

Who the fuck is complaining? Oh, right RC_Master, who clearly plays the game. Oh, and he's quitting too! That's not masochistic, that's just smart. He wanted to know what his alternatives are, what the hell is wrong with that? So what if it's on top of Xbox Live? That just means it's popular, and...duh. I didn't come back into this thread to complain about the game. The personal criticism people are subjected to for not liking this game borderlines on childish. There's nothing wrong with someone being critical of something you like. You don't have to agree with him, but you also don't have to be an ass.

I only offered RC_Master some honest advice per his question. I'm not here to rant about how much better of a game Call of Duty 4 is. I was really disappointed with this game, because I was a huge fan of this franchise. I already offered my impressions when I played it. But I'm quite done with Call of Duty, and that includes bothering to discuss it with people whose only reaction is personal criticism for something so absolutely not personal. You still like it? More power to you.

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BC2 4 life yo!

Meh. You're being an ass too.

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[quote=Acert93]
What isn't a surprise is people who don't play are still complaining and that there are those who dislike the game and continue to play/complain (masochists?)

Interestingly MW2 still tops MW1, Halo 3, ODST, Gears 1/2, etc on my friends list. What is the most popular Live game per MS these days?[/quote]

Who the fuck is complaining? Oh, right RC_Master, who clearly [i]plays the game[/i]. Oh, and he's quitting too! That's not masochistic, that's just smart. He wanted to know what his alternatives are, what the hell is wrong with that? So what if it's on top of Xbox Live? That just means it's popular, and...[i]duh[/i]. I didn't come back into this thread to complain about the game. The personal criticism people are subjected to for not liking this game borderlines on childish. There's nothing wrong with someone being critical of something [i]you like[/i]. You don't have to agree with him, but you also don't have to be an ass.

I only offered RC_Master some honest advice per his question. I'm not here to rant about how much better of a game Call of Duty 4 is. I was really disappointed with this game, because I was a huge fan of this franchise. I already offered my impressions [i]when I played it[/i]. But I'm quite done with Call of Duty, and that includes bothering to discuss it with people whose only reaction is personal criticism for something so absolutely not personal. You still like it? More power to you.

[quote=scoobs0688]BC2 4 life yo![/quote]

Meh. You're being an ass too.

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Posté par Acert93

What isn't a surprise is people who don't play are still complaining and that there are those who dislike the game and continue to play/complain (masochists?)

MW2 creates an artificial sense of reward. People think they're bad asses when they can call in air support. So the game winds down to how they can reach the next kill streak, giving them an objective to aim for, no matter the means. When I played it last year my whole game revolved around getting the first 5 kills that would start a chain reaction and give me easy 20-30 kills with air support. It's like a drug and most people are addicted to it. It's all smoke and mirrors.

The game can be bad ass as long as you're bad ass, but that's just the upper 0,1% of the players. For the rest of the population, the reality is a different one. It's part of the reason why BC2 struggles to put up a fight against MW2 and why MoH will probably completely fail at that. If everyone could experience BC2 like I do they'd be all over the game (yeah I'm a bad ass at the game, friends drool when they watch me play), but it's hard to get any excitement when you're seated 2 miles away from the action scoped in and your only objective is to retain a 1 k/d ratio. MW2 is the perfect game for these people. It provides rewards for the most boring style of plays.

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What isn't a surprise is people who don't play are still complaining and that there are those who dislike the game and continue to play/complain (masochists?)
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MW2 creates an artificial sense of reward. People think they're bad asses when they can call in air support. So the game winds down to how they can reach the next kill streak, giving them an objective to aim for, no matter the means. When I played it last year my whole game revolved around getting the first 5 kills that would start a chain reaction and give me easy 20-30 kills with air support. It's like a drug and most people are addicted to it. It's all smoke and mirrors.

The game [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4YTIQZFVXw&playnext_from=TL&videos=Xx2kofDyCyU]can be bad ass as long as you're bad ass[/url], but that's just the upper 0,1% of the players. For the rest of the population, the reality is a different one. It's part of the reason why BC2 struggles to put up a fight against MW2 and why MoH will probably completely fail at that. If everyone could experience BC2 like I do they'd be all over the game (yeah I'm a bad ass at the game, friends drool when they watch me play), but it's hard to get any excitement when you're seated 2 miles away from the action scoped in and your only objective is to retain a 1 k/d ratio. MW2 is the perfect game for these people. It provides rewards for the most boring style of plays.