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Battlefield 3 -- Now with less suppression!

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I'd love to see following scores on HC ( with a decent anti-boost system ) :

Kill - 10
Revive - 150 ( only if teammate is killed by enemy )
Repair - 50
Ressuply - 50
Laser paint damage- 50 / Laser paint vehicle destrucion - 200
Objective - 300/500 ( depends on game mode )
Win - 1000

Also removing K/D ratio stats from ingame stats, battlelog etc. K/D ratio with unlocking gears system ruined the way people play this game. Ohh..and most ridiculous thing is to see high level colonel killing people on respawn ( littlebird on canals lol )..

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Acert93

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http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/news/view/283...

Monster patch is monster.

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GriftGFX

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Prepare for massive bitching. I did some already ;)

Some of that is awesome. I think it'll be pretty good overall. Some of it will get taken out when people realize how dumb it is, hopefully.

But ya know what? Back to playing. Pew pew pew.

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crookedmind

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G3A3: Increased damage at all ranges, reduced vertical recoil. The G3A3's heavy recoil and heavy round are offset by a low rate of fire and a small magazine. The G3A3 was clearly outclassed at all ranges.

This almost makes me want to come back.

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GeRaLTo

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flares > guided rocket = me pass that pile of shit

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Jin187

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The MAV will now be destroyed when running into a soldier or vehicle at high speed. It is still possible to strategically sacrifice your MAV on a soldier; it will be destroyed in the process.

:-D

The MAV can no longer be used as an elevator.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par Jin187

Oh, come on. Really?

Posté par GeRaLTo

flares > guided rocket = me pass that pile of shit

I don't understand your post but if you think it's dumb, I agree. That's not what flares do. That said, they're also buffing stingers and flares will no longer break locks.

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GeRaLTo

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Thats exactly what I mean. Its ridiculos. Dice listen to bunch of 12 yrs old crybabies who cant fly and got owned by guided rocket. They also ruin what is most important part of BF - teamwork. And now what ? They are giving an opportunity to beat high level unlocks mixed with teamwork by bloody flares. So whats the point of ECM jammer now btw ? This is what happen when devs listen to theirs customers which know shit about gaming and just want K/D ratio as high as possible.

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GriftGFX

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There's absolutely no doubt that the Jav is overpowered right now.. and despite the change there's no reason to assume that helos will be difficult to take out. There's still a delay and without the lock break, they should still be easier to take out. Maybe this will make stingers useful again too.

This is probably the only thing post patch that I'd like to see changed again, simply for the sake of the ECM.. but they fucked up by making the ECM a late unlock, while giving the jav and soflam to people relatively quickly. The stinger is also completely useless right now.

So yeah.. I half agree. I'm not going to rage over it. If they would change it back, while making the stinger buff stay and the ECM easily to unlock, I'd probably be happier, but after this patch I'd like to see the game at least begin to stabilize.

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GeRaLTo

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You serious ? How is it op ?

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GriftGFX

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It's OP because the vast majority of players do not have ECM's yet. It's OP because the meta-game was designed poorly. I already said it all above.

There's no reason that pilots should have been so far behind with the counter measure for a weapon that kills them in one hit and takes absolutely no skill to connect.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist (oh boy) to figure that out. Javs are not high level unlocks and they will still be the most effective way to kill a helo. The vehicle unlocks are probably the most fucked up/broken part of the meta game right now.

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GeRaLTo

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Seriously ? No ECM yet...so they should stop using vehicles or just stop playing the game. Helis should be used by people who can fly them....if they cant and bitch about javs/guided rockets thats their problem. Before I got flares I got owned by Stingers, before I got ECM I got shot down by javs but with a decent skill and a little brain I was able to overcome those weapons and thats a reason I got even better. People get to the chopper, fly high, hunt jets, trying to be cool and later they moan for getting owned. Learn to fly, fly low, hide behind buildings, rocks etc learn to aim and then only thing You'll blame is low skills...You own skills.

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GriftGFX

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Posté par GeRaLTo

Seriously ? No ECM yet...so they should stop using vehicles or just stop playing the game. Helis should be used by people who can fly them

That's friggin stupid, sorry. There are new players too, ya know, and also tons of players who just don't fly helos very frequently. You should not be limiting their ability to pick it up at a later date. There should be nothing in the metagame that gives you absolute advantage/dominance over a player who doesn't have an unlock. Come on--this is just not how a competitive game should work. This is not an MMORPG.

And really, it has nothing to do with being able to fly them. Without the ECM you are dead, period. The vast majority of players don't seem to have it. Nearly every javelin I fire at a helo is a double kill. That's how I know the weapon is overpowered. Because you fire and forget. No unlock should give you such an absolute advantage over another player. You want to call that a skill issue? More power to ya.. but it aint. The fact is that it takes absolutely no skill for a sniper to drop a fuckin soflam and almost less skill to take out helos with the Javelin. The skill it takes to avoid the Javelin without the ECM is disproportionately higher than the (lack) of skill it takes to take out helos with the Javelin.

Aren't you the guy who bitched about them nerfing AT mines too? Give me a break. These were the most broken things in the game.

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't want this to become a rollercoaster of balance changes, but I'm not going to pretend that the metagame isn't broken either. This whole issue could have been avoided if there wasn't such a skew in the metagame. Notice how it's not tanks that are complaining? That's because everyone has smoke already. There are far, far more players with Javelins than there are people who have ECM's.

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[quote=GeRaLTo]Seriously ? No ECM yet...so they should stop using vehicles or just stop playing the game. Helis should be used by people who can fly them[/quote]

And really, it has [i]nothing[/i] to do with being able to fly them. Without the ECM you are dead, period. The vast majority of players don't seem to have it. Nearly every javelin I fire at a helo is a double kill. That's how I know the weapon is overpowered. Because you fire and forget. No unlock should give you such an absolute advantage over another player. You want to call that a skill issue? More power to ya.. but it aint. The fact is that it takes absolutely no skill for a sniper to drop a fuckin soflam and almost less skill to take out helos with the Javelin. [b][i]The skill it takes to avoid the Javelin without the ECM is disproportionately higher than the (lack) of skill it takes to take out helos with the Javelin.[/i][/b]

Aren't you the guy who bitched about them nerfing AT mines too? Give me a break. These were the most broken things in the game.

Lets just agree to disagree. I don't want this to become a rollercoaster of balance changes, but I'm not going to pretend that the metagame isn't broken either. This whole issue could have been avoided if there wasn't such a skew in the metagame. Notice how it's not tanks that are complaining? That's because everyone has smoke already. There are far, far more players with Javelins than there are people who have ECM's.

GriftGFX

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And for what it's worth, I agree that DICE should cave less. I think this is a problem that would have eventually worked itself out. And maybe this is less skewed on consoles, btw.. more than double the players, more than double the javelins. :)

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GeRaLTo

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Javelins and laser guided are not absolute advantage ( and even if they were, I have no problem with something that requires 2 people to work ) You just cant fly as moron and You'll be just fine. AT mines were perfect in BC/BC2 and I stopped using them in BF3 after the last patch so dunno about upcoming nerf/buff whatever...I also prefer to use repair torch.

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GriftGFX

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Well, I too prefer the repair torch. And while they may have been designed well in BC2, their implementation at launch was really poor in BF3. I actually meant to remove that statement as it wasn't really that relevant to this discussion. We clearly don't agree. I won't keep trying to change your mind, but I think the meta game is pretty broken. I do not think making the counter measure for Javelin's a relatively late unlock for helos was anything close to smart. There are also many large, flat maps, which don't give you jack to hide behind if you've got a javelin headed your way.

As it stands, a javelin lock on a helo is almost a certain kill unless they have an ECM.

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GeRaLTo

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One thing is obvious...Bad Company ownz BF3

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Tinks

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Posté par GeRaLTo

One thing is obvious...Bad Company ownz BF3

uh oh...

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GriftGFX

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lol.. not even going to bother. But hey, on the Xbox, maybe it was.

I just played the most epic pub game I think I've played in this game period. We lost by two tickets but holy crap.. it was still immensely satisfying. I wish this game was always that good.

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Viginti_Tres

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Posté par GeRaLTo

One thing is obvious...Bad Company ownz BF3

By your own low standards maybe. ;)

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GeRaLTo

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Id have to knee so You could suck my low standarts. So gtfo and dont interupt.

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GriftGFX

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Be nice. Bad taste is not the same thing as low standards.

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GriftGFX

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http://youtu.be/rrH8cOBx5PQ

xfactor posted some comments and accuracy plots from symthic (the actual image links on symthic are garbage) on the upcoming patch. Check it out.

It looks like the foregrip is going in the garbage, and heavy barrel is a new winner. The L85 looks friggin awesome now (and also seems to benefit more than usual from the grip).

Lets keep that revolving door spinning. I just want this thing to come out. I'm playing a lot right now, and I'm loving it, but I want to get this overhaul over with so I can adjust and move on.

Infantry is so good right now. I hope this doesn't change how it all feels.

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Acert93

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For the consoles, did they ever "fix" it so you could enter an empty server (or one with a couple players) and play with the toys? I would like to get some practice time in an A-10 and me and a friend would like to test out various vehicle loadouts in the helos.

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crookedmind

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http://youtu.be/1B-EJdh8U1Y?hd=1

Enjoy... Game is still broke.

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